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Things abusers use to groom children:
- candy
- puppies
- pornography
- being nice to them
- books
- movies
- anime
- hentai
- isolation
- attention
- ice cream
- toys
- smut fanfiction
- clean fanfiction
- presents
- video games
- dolls
- action figures
- puppets
- kids cartoons
Which of these things should we ban because groomers use them to abuse children?
None of them.
mate you are comparing things like puppies and kindness to media involving CP and incest. these are not at all comparable. this is essentially the same sort of logic as “well people can be killed without guns; guns don’t kill people, so why ban AR-15s?” it’s the same logic that those people use.
if you enjoy taking in media that includes CP, incest, and other things along those lines BECAUSE it has CP, incest, etc? that’s fucked up. you cannot compare these things in the list above to that kind of media. people can use anything to do anything; it doesn’t mean that some things are not inherently bad. things can be inherently bad. CP and incest are very much inherently bad. and if you cannot recognize that, you are bad.
if you enjoy partaking in media that involves CP or incest because it has CP or incest, you are bad. proshippers are bad. this isn’t some “ohhhohhh look at this anti” take. no. i am the average person who isn’t really a part of hardly any fandoms. and i have gone through SO much CSA. i don’t care if you “use it to cope” and saying so doesn’t absolve you of any guilt.
fuck proshippers today, tomorrow, and always.
Antis make the same arguments again and again, it’s really depressing to see.
Fiction isn’t a gun. A gun doesn’t have any use other than to harm.
Fiction is art, and art has many uses and ways to be appreciated.
You know what, let’s ignore the fact that this person is literally strawmanning the whole post for a second.
“I don’t care if you use it to cope and saying so doesn’t absolve you of any guilt” Guilt for what exactly? What harm does using fictional depictions to cope do? Please feel free to enlighten me exactly how somebody using taboo themes in their private fiction, that have been written about by mainstream authors for mainstream media multiple times, for the specific reason to cope is SO bad that you feel justified in shaming and guilting your fellow survivors, that you feel a need to act so horribly to them. I would LOVE to hear it.
And by the way nobody here was arguing whether or not CSEM or CSAM were okay or good. Don’t know WHERE you got that from seeing as the original post didn’t even fucking imply it.
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