If your problem with people banning books is that they are banning the wrong books, you are just a different flavor of authoritarian.
then please help me to understand. I don’t mean this in a mean or sarcastic way. Instead of rbing a post and saying that my opinion is bad and talking to the world about me, Please talk to me and help me better understand the subject. I genuinely write this wanting to understand why you disagree/dislike my statement and think it’s wrong
in terms of the modern censorship of “"pornographic”“ books in classrooms, this is a dogwhistle for any books that contain queer content. there is not porn in classroom libraries. states like florida define any mention of non-heterosexual relationships, no matter how actually child-friendly, as pornographic and too sexual for children.
the book I was thinking of when I put the tags is the one where it shows the kids in the book naked, dildos and how to use them. I’m not referring to the lgbt books, I mean the actual pornographic books that get passed off as lgbt. I mean the ones that have actual sexual stuff in it. The other banned books have no reason to be banned as their just lgbt not sexual
That sounds like a book about sexual education/sex ed, which is important for young people to be able to access.
If your problem with people banning books is that they are banning the wrong books, you are just a different flavor of authoritarian.
My friend, I know you mean well. But listen to me.
There aren’t any NSFW books in schools.
What these people are doing is calling all content that includes queer or trans people– cute, wholesome, non-sexual content–
they are calling all queer content “porn” and “nsfw and using it as an excuse to ban it from schools.
They’re not banning porn they’re banning gay and trans representation, completely.
This argument also gets used to target educational books for things like reproductive health, biology/anatomy, etc. There’s an anti-queer angle and also a more general sex-negative angle that condemns any education about sex or reproductive health other than abstinence.
AO3 was created deliberately as the place for taboo fanfiction that no one else wanted to host.
It was created in significant part in response to the spontaneous deletion of adult and queer content fanfic on other archives; specifically fanfiction.net and livejoural.com.
I cannot stress this enough. Fanfiction.net and livejoural.com straight up deleted users adult and queer content without warning, backup or recourse.
AO3 was created so that authors could host queer fic, porn, and transgressive adult material without the threat of deletion.
AO3 was created as the place for shipcest and underage fic.
If you want a clean archive with no taboo material, those archives exist. AO3 was created to be their alternative.
I’m not sure how exactly to phrase this, but it’s been on my mind for awhile.
People often frame the debate around either being for or against certain types of fan content. Arguing that being pro ao3 = being pro (insert “evil” thing here).
Whereas to me the divide looks more like. “I do not enjoy x content or consider it immoral, so I will not create or consume x content” vs. “I do not enjoy x or consider it immoral, other people should be prevented from creating and consuming it”.
Ao3 provides excellent tools to avoid content you don’t want to see, for whatever reason. No one is making you look at fanfic that goes against your beliefs.
People against Ao3 are absolutely coming from the second perspective. And beyond being anti censorship, I just don’t understand having the time or energy to make other people’s fandom your moral obligation to control. It sounds utterly exhausting. You are not going to stop x content from existing. It’s not your job to. You make choices about what you read or write, and ao3 tags are a great tool for that. You don’t get to dictate other people’s media/fandom consumption.
Question for proshippers: what was your introduction to the whole pro/antiship business?
For me, it was when I left a comment on a fanfic that I really enjoyed, only to have the comment deleted because I write smut. This led me down the rabbit hole of pro/antiship, and I was like “Well I’m against harassment and censorship, I don’t believe fiction affects reality on a one-to-one basis, and I don’t believe the fiction people create and consume are a direct reflection of their irl morality, so… I guess I’m a proshipper.”
Self shipping community.
A year ago we started trying to get into the community only to discover that there was a harassment and witch hunt campaign against people who had F/Os who were in high school in canon.
Despite you know, most anime characters being in high school, if nothing else.
