i’m playing 5-3 for the first time and i think this is an unpopular opinion but i’m loving dual destinies klavier. depressed washed-up rock star desperate to relive the glory days of his youth (two months ago) longing for his band (that he quit for no clear reason). he is funny as hell. i enjoy everything he has to say and everything said about him, generally
I love this so much and I love Klavier here, you are so right about his washed up rockstar vibe.
That said I do think that having his co-frontman sent to jail for murder and smuggling, and it turning out he kinda hated him was probably enough reason to break up the band.
What gets me with the Gavinners breaking up is not so much the band itself breaking up (because as you say, Daryan) as it is that the band breaks up and he quits music altogether and keeps practicing law, despite all the Kristoph stuff. In AA4 he mostly came across to me like a guy whose passion was music but got pulled into law presumably by Kristoph’s influence. So if he was going to quit one of those things afterwards, I’d have expected law (and maybe a solo music career, rather than part of the murder band). I think AA4’s biggest flaw, writing-wise, is that too many main characters don’t react to what’s going on around them despite personal investment and Klavier was the most egregious example.
So then in AA5 he’s like… lmao… it’s extremely funny to me, especially because it doesn’t even really seem all that intentional. But he really is coming across like …. well like a guy whose life imploded a few months ago and is pretending it didn’t. He quit the band but it’s all he talks about, he’s still wearing merch, he’s here for a reunion tour (does Daryan get a work-release program like Simon? lmao), he’s worked up about his stupid band flag, he’s staring at his broken statue, his 3D model has no light in its eyes. I feel like I’m going to see his VH1 Behind the Music rerun any day. So I like that they’ve given him the existential crisis I felt he was overdue for, even if they maybe did it accidentally.
I think AA4’s biggest flaw, writing-wise, is that too many main characters don’t react to what’s going on around them despite personal investment and Klavier was the most egregious example.
That’s a huge agree from me. TBH I feel like it carries forward as a problem in the second trilogy in general, but its definitely worst in 4. We get very little access to what’s happening in anybody’s head.
Personally, I like to imagine Klavier ends up going for a solo career a little later, but isn’t ready yet. His lean into law makes sense narratively with a lot of the themes that keep cropping up in 4,5,6 which are basically duty, legacy etc. It would have been nice to see WHY he’s making those choices.
I have no idea how accidental or intentional his little falling apart arc in Dual Destinies is– I agree with you that it’s more likely to be unintentional– but it’s definitely compelling. XD Love that disaster man. VH1 behind the music is right!
How I judge so-called problematic characters is not on a matrix of approval to disapproval. It’s walking a museum corridor, noticing little details and intricacies, and saying “ah, interesting” while swirling a wine glass and thinking
for me it’s more like being a nature documentarian
i’m playing 5-3 for the first time and i think this is an unpopular opinion but i’m loving dual destinies klavier. depressed washed-up rock star desperate to relive the glory days of his youth (two months ago) longing for his band (that he quit for no clear reason). he is funny as hell. i enjoy everything he has to say and everything said about him, generally
I love this so much and I love Klavier here, you are so right about his washed up rockstar vibe.
That said I do think that having his co-frontman sent to jail for murder and smuggling, and it turning out he kinda hated him was probably enough reason to break up the band.
