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cowabungaits-drshrimppuertorico:
cowabungaits-drshrimppuertorico:
Ok so I made a post on my main about things that irk me in certain Ace Attorney fanfics and now I wanna do another but with more of the sexual things in A A fanfics that irk me.
Let me start this by saying I am not putting anyone down for thinking along these lines and I’m also a bisexual genderqueer person, not a gay or bisexual man. But I still wanna talk about how these two are usually portrayed in relationships and how kind of tropey and gross some of them are.
I have a lot of thoughts on this. And it might be disjointed so bear with me.
So, for one thing, Miles is not the designated bottom and Phoenix is not the designated top. People do this because Miles is seen as a twink and pretty boy (and I’ll give you pretty boy, but if anything Miles is a twunk) and Phoenix is seen as more masc and manly (He is also a twunk). And I can give you most of those but that all doesn’t nesscarily mean that Miles is the bottom and Phoenix is the top.
This happens a lot with gay/bisexual male relationships. The bi guy is usually the top and the gay guy is usually the bottom. (Think of Zuko x Sokka from ATLA and Ryan and Chad from High School Musical) (Surprisngly, these two ships are also blue/red) ANYWAY. It just irks me because I don’t think that’s actually good relationship representation for them? And good representation for gay relationships in general.
If anything, they’re switches.
The more fem guy doesn’t always have to be the bottom and the masc guy doesn’t always have to be the top. And the gay guy doesn’t always have to be the bottom and the bi guy doesn’t always have to be the top.
This also is how it usually goes for Kristoph and Phoenix. Phoenix is seen as the top because he’s more manly and a hunk and Kristoph is seen as the bottom because he’s more feminine. But I don’t think that’s the case.
If anything, they’re also switches. (Kristoph likes the control when he tops and Phoenix likes the power he has over Kristoph because of what happened with his badge and it’s a way to gain power back)
I guess this is also my headcannons but it just irks me and I can’t help it and I wanna talk about it.
I might add more but that’s about the gist of what irks me personally. Feel free to comment and add but please do not be mean.
Yesssss, thank you. I am not a fan of when people make a character in a gay relationship the “designated top” or “designated bottom” in general, and I really feel like in the two relationships you mentioned in particular there’s likely to be a lot of switching.
My personal headcanon is actually that Miles topped more often pre seven year gap, and then Phoenix started topping somewhat more often during the gap. Not because of being more ‘manly’ then but because initially Miles was more experienced, and then later, once Phoenix has more experience (and is disbarred) topping gives him more of an outlet for a feeling of control when he’s lost a lot of control in his life.
With Kristoph and Phoenix I typically see them as sort of playing subtle power/dominance games with one another and who is topping at what time relies on the outcome of that night’s power struggle XD
Def I can totally see what you’re saying. And what you said about the experience thing rings true as well. I remember reading this post about Chad and Ryan’s relationship in High School Musical (especially in HSM 2) (This is going a little off the AA track but bare with me)
I dunno if you’ve seen HSM 2 but in the song “I Don’t Dance” there’s a lot of sexual tension between the two male characters and they’re also trying to play baseball and there’s a moment at the beginning where both of them are grabbing the baseball bat and the more fem guy of them two tops the other guy (and it’s kind of in an obvious “I have more experience in this kind of relationship way” because the whole song is kind of about this bi guy who doesn’t want to be bi and about this gay guy being like “Dude it’s okay to be gay”
Dunno if that’s make sense but if you ever look up the music video you’d understand what I mean.
I have *not* seen HSM but I will look that scene up, it sounds amazing.
Even without the additional context I definitely see what you’re getting at with it, and it sounds like exactly the idea I was going for.
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