Hate how shipping has taken the meaning of “I want this pairing to be canon” when it was never meant to be seen that way.
Back when queer pairings were not as present as nowadays, shipping two straight and same gendered characters was common place (arguably it still is and there’s nothing wrong with that). But more than that, the shipping in itself wasn’t done to perpetuate a certain “agenda”, people were doing it just for the fun of it, you know, because those characters looked cute together or they had an interesting dynamic.
I don’t understand why nowadays things should be so different. There’s nothing wrong in shipping canon lgbt+ characters with other characters that aren’t meant to be seen as love interest by the canon material, and I don’t mean only for problematic dynamics, but even fluffy ones.
Chances are these fan ships will be rare pairs anyway, but even if they wouldn’t be it’s not like people are being homophobic or tarnishing “queer representation” by enjoying a fictional scenario with fictional characters. Hell, some of those shippers, artists, and writers could be queer themselves.
Until people have an open mind and respect lgbt+ people in real life, then it doesn’t matter what they enjoy in fiction.
Fiction doesn’t brainwash anyone into being homophobic, but rather many environmental factors which have grounds in reality (like family, the church, school, the community they live in), could bring someone down that path.
So instead of trying to take the moral high ground and scream at people to get off the platform (which won’t do anything for actual queer rights, nor will it stop the content from being made), maybe antis should just say they dislike the ship. At least that would be a way more honest reason than the ones they pretend to care so much about.
“if you age up teens for smut fics you’re just sexualizing minors and aging them up to dodge accountability!”
No actually I like writing about intimate queer sex and that ship just happens to have a dynamic I’d like to explore in an adult context because I am a queer dude with a lot of feelings and thoughts that you aren’t privy to.
So you can stay big mad and keep sipping that watered down queerphobia! ☕
Like idk I just find it ironic and disappointing how easily the anti-fiction purity culture crowd in the stranger things fandom will go from understanding that queerness and strangeness is worthy of being given space in the world, only for them to turn around and crucify anyone who makes something they deem “perverse” or “immoral” at the drop of a hat based on assumptions and estimates about how they perceive their limited and narrow view of that creator’s mind.
Y’all literally treat pro-fiction ppl exactly how the town of Hawkins treats people like Eddie Munson. Y’all treat dark fic and other things that personally make you uncomfortable the same way satanic panic treated D&D. “But people can’t tell the difference between fiction and reality and they’ll act this out in the real world”.
The absolutely delicious irony of that.
To quote Mike Wheeler: that’s just bullshit media propaganda.
It’s the same old rainbow washed nonsense.
They want GAYness but not QUEERness. They want gay cutesy hand holding and wholesomeness but if you so much as IMPLY a queer teenager has homoerotic sexual feelings and desires then suddenly you’re a “freak”…
A FREAK. From the STRANGER THINGS fandom. Let that sink in.
If you’re like me, you can write relatively tame and completely consensual NSFW between adult characters but if those characters aren’t adults yet in the source material? You can get called a pedophile. For…*squints* writing a loving, intimate, consensual relationship between aged up adult characters.
If you write Dead Dove? Oh good luck buddy, suddenly the fans of this horror series become so cognitively dissonant that they forget that the entire horror genre is based on violence and uncomfortable topics, and next thing you know they’re accusing you of shit for writing dark fiction.
Somehow this fandom recognizes that enjoying watching gore, violence, murder, etc. isn’t a mark of evil- but then when it comes to fanworks that have any sort of unconventional and explicit sexuality they’ll attack and harass people for writing anything they deem “too dark” or “immoral” even if it’s not dark (such as aged up smut with enthusiastic consent).
This leaves all the power of creating fiction in the hands of corporations and companies, but if the common people partake in making such things? “There must be something wrong with them, they must be hiding something”.
In short, Anti-ship culture draws undue associations between pedophilia and adult queer sexuality and kink. Just like TERFs, Nazis, and general homophobes.
Which btw, as a CSA survivor– let’s stop fucking reducing the gravity of that word by throwing it at anything that makes you vaguely uncomfortable. Stop throwing this word around AT CSA survivors like myself because all you’re doing is being presumptuous and deeply sanist to thousands of people with OCD, PTSD, and other mental illnesses.
There are many things I don’t write or read (incest, underage/adult, explicit non con) but I also recognize that I can’t assume shit about why someone would write these things. I just DON’T PARTAKE IN THE CONTENT. I block the creator if I’m triggered or squicked out, then I move on w my life.
It’s unhealthy to form obsessive moral patterns like this. If you feel a deeply unavoidable sense of guilt or shame for even THINKING about such things? Babe you might have moral OCD and should consider distancing from fandom puritans.
Just fucking block ppl and stop slinging around words that actually mean things in utterly nonsensical ways. If someone calls me a pedophile for aging up teen characters to write queer sexuality and intimacy between adults, I will simply laugh at you. Been there done that, babe. I used to BE an anti. I was you. I’m over it. You’re cuddling up with Nazi rhetoric, and I hope you actually listen if you’re an anti reading this post.
Antis are a political cult. Full stop.
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AO3 also doesn’t have a translated interface.
You’re going to see more fans from countries that tend to learn English or fans who don’t have many options and aren’t used to being catered to.
There are like 200,000 Russian language fics on AO3. Their big archive has, what, 2 million? Wattpad has a translated interface and a big market share for a bunch of languages. For all that AO3 is multilingual, it’s not that multilingual, and the interface is a huge part of that.
Having taught English in Japan, I can say they’re the same type as the US: generally pretty bad at foreign languages and very used to being catered to in their own. #notall, etc. etc. but the trend is there.
AO3 tagging may not appeal, but I’d guess a bigger reason is… why bother? There are plenty of sites like pixiv that cater to Japanese people better. The community hasn’t had a big shakeup like China’s purging of horny BL content as far as I know.
Communities don’t, in general, tend to move until hit with a very big stick or lured with an equally big carrot.
If your problem with people banning books is that they are banning the wrong books, you are just a different flavor of authoritarian.