things-antis-say:

i think it’s cool that you feel comfortable enough with yourself to speak about this and the nuances of such a concept, but i’m afraid that i’m not the person to come to about it, haha

i know that there are some people in the proship community who are more involved in the system side of things, like @doctor-darling , but i am not a system so i don’t really think it’s my place to comment

that, and to be honest, system and transid stuff makes me uncomfortable. i don’t understand it — systems make sense from a trauma or mental disorder stand point, i suppose, but i have a hard time wrapping my mind around it. i’ve met plenty of systems who engage with me in good-faith questions, but it’s still not something that i can properly grasp. so i do my best to just be respectful and not step on any toes 🙂

i’d prefer to not have anything to do with drama in these communities in the future. there’s definitely stuff there that warrants a discussion, but i don’t think that i’m gonna be the one to talk about it

Thanks for tagging us in this discussion, because it’s really interesting.

To be honest, as a system we don’t “get” the transid community ourselves– it wasn’t something that existed when we were starting to understand ourselves as a system, and its not something that we’ve done a lot of research on; its something that makes us uncomfortable like @things-antis-say too.

We have system members who are different ages than the body, different races than the body, are disabled in ways that the body isn’t disabled, but we don’t consider ourselves transracial, transage, or transabled.

That’s just not the way our internal perception of ourselves works with the body. We have trouble conceptualizing what the benefit of calling ourselves any of those things would be. We’re not looking to speak in any of those communities, since that isn’t our experience of life in this world.

Maybe its because we’re fictionkin, and a spiritual system, rather than an psychological DID based system? but we come from the fictionkin community where the idea of asking to be treated as your kintype’s race outside of specifically kin spaces, for instance, is a pretty big taboo. I, Toko, have been Japanese, but my experience of being Japanese happened in another universe and isn’t really relevant here. There are some discussions about Japan and Japanese culture I’ll jump in on, but always as an interested and educted foreigner, because my actual lived-experience of being Japanese is not relevant to this universe.

I actually don’t know enough about the transid community to know if they’re primarily made of of plural systems, or of fictionkin, or some other community, and I don’t know what their goals or aims are, so I can’t really even say if what I’m talking about here is even relevant..