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i do wish there was a way to discuss taboo writings/art in predominantly fandom spaces without both sides of the argument getting defensive and screaming at each other
like i think there could be a really interesting discussion on why it’s created, the impacts it has, and the history of that type of media because it is nuanced and there isn’t one simple answer to everything
but for some reason you can’t do that bc the entire issue is so black and white to everyone and you either have to be 100% one way or the other
I mean, we try to have normal rational discussions about it all the time, but when we do people who call themselves antis make violent threats at us and accuse us of crimes.
yea i do definitively notice pros are more relaxed and don’t resort to name calling and threats as often, but i do think they still fall into the black and white thinking from my experience. like for example i’ve seen a lot of them say that fiction doesn’t affect reality and while that can be true i think it misses the point that fiction is a reflection of society and it can enforce beliefs of that society
I’m curious, genuinely, if you can recall any times you have actually seen any proshippers claiming that “fiction doesn’t affect reality”, because in my personal experience this is something that antis claim that proshippers say, rather than something that we actually say.
The actual proship stance is– broadly speaking– that creating or consuming fiction does not lead directly to action, and that the creators of fictional works cannot logically be held responsible for the actions of people who consume their work.
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