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Things abusers use to groom children:
- candy
- puppies
- pornography
- being nice to them
- books
- movies
- anime
- hentai
- isolation
- attention
- ice cream
- toys
- smut fanfiction
- clean fanfiction
- presents
- video games
- dolls
- action figures
- puppets
- kids cartoons
Which of these things should we ban because groomers use them to abuse children?
None of them.
mate you are comparing things like puppies and kindness to media involving CP and incest. these are not at all comparable. this is essentially the same sort of logic as “well people can be killed without guns; guns don’t kill people, so why ban AR-15s?” it’s the same logic that those people use.
if you enjoy taking in media that includes CP, incest, and other things along those lines BECAUSE it has CP, incest, etc? that’s fucked up. you cannot compare these things in the list above to that kind of media. people can use anything to do anything; it doesn’t mean that some things are not inherently bad. things can be inherently bad. CP and incest are very much inherently bad. and if you cannot recognize that, you are bad.
if you enjoy partaking in media that involves CP or incest because it has CP or incest, you are bad. proshippers are bad. this isn’t some “ohhhohhh look at this anti” take. no. i am the average person who isn’t really a part of hardly any fandoms. and i have gone through SO much CSA. i don’t care if you “use it to cope” and saying so doesn’t absolve you of any guilt.
fuck proshippers today, tomorrow, and always.
Antis make the same arguments again and again, it’s really depressing to see.
Fiction isn’t a gun. A gun doesn’t have any use other than to harm.
Fiction is art, and art has many uses and ways to be appreciated.
There are parts here on both sides i agree with we. Does reading ‘problematic’ fiction make you bad? No. Does looking at loli/shota hentai a lot make you bad? Yes.
While I agree that antishippers go a bit hard in trying to get things censored, proshippers also go too hard in keeping everything available. There are absolutely some things in fiction and art that need to be off limits, like loli types of porn. It’s just straight up sexualized children. There is no story, there is no purpose, it’s just fictional content of a character who outright says that they are 9 years old being nothing but raped with no nuances or intentions orher than “this is for jacking off to.” And that is fucked! Loli/cub/whatever other things they’re called NEED to go. And that isn’t an ‘anti’ take, that’s a regualr normal human take, froma regular normal human who doesn’t want to see children get fucking sexualized for the soul point of sexualization.
Write/make/ingest whatever you want, it doesn’t matter, until the content you are regularly ingesting/creating exists for the soul point of sexulalizing a child
No.
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