Hi! RE: your journal about the right for lolicon fiction to exist even if you disapprove of it, would you say it can also exist for titillation purposes, or do you stand by it for artistic reasons, or for the purpose of exploring dark themes only? I always thought you were saying the former, but I just wanted to ask. It’s chill if you don’t wanna answer this. Have a good day!
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Here we are, 15 years on from that blog entry, and I still haven’t read any lolicon, I’m afraid, so I have no idea about its themes. The context was whether you should be sent to prison for owning lolicon. What I said back then was,
In this case you obviously have read lolicon, and I haven’t. I don’t know whether you’re writing from personal experience here, and whether you have personally been incited to rape children or give inappropriate hugs by reading it. (I assume you haven’t. I assume that Chris Handley, with his huge manga collection, wasn’t either. I’ve read books that claimed that exposure to porn causes rape, but have seen no statistical evidence that porn causes rape – and indeed have seen claims that the declining number of US rapes may be due to the wider availability of porn. Honestly, I think it’s a red herring in First Amendment matters, and I’ll leave it for other people to argue about.) Still, you seem to want lolicon banned, and people prosecuted for owning it, and I don’t. You ask, What makes it worth defending? and the only answer I can give is this: Freedom to write, freedom to read, freedom to own material that you believe is worth defending means you’re going to have to stand up for stuff you don’t believe is worth defending, even stuff you find actively distasteful, because laws are big blunt instruments that do not differentiate between what you like and what you don’t, because prosecutors are humans and bear grudges and fight for re-election, because one person’s obscenity is another person’s art.
Because if you don’t stand up for the stuff you don’t like, when they come for the stuff you do like, you’ve already lost.
i’m sorry but blanket statements like this are just harmful and wrong. it’s gross and weird to draw art of adults who look like kids and sexuality them. it should be illegal. and i don’t really believe in the slippery slope argument here because texts by POC and LGBTQ authors is already being stripped from shelves. these two things aren’t the same, not all art has merit. not all opinions are valid. you can defend the things you like and call out reprehensible behavior. lolicon is literally pedophilia and i don’t understand why people can’t just come out and say they disapprove of it.
“I don’t believe in the slippery slope argument because *lists the exact effects of the slippery slope that HAS ALREADY OCCURRED*”
“I think we should censor more things because the effects of censorship are already terrible”
I need a drink.
“it’s gross and weird to draw art of adults who look like kids and sexuality them.”
So you acknowledge they’re adults and you only have a problem with their “icky appearance”? Real people, real adults, are negatively impacted by feelings like this. There are real adults with “childlike” physical traits or medical conditions that stunt physical growth but have no effect on their mental capacities and people openly discriminate against them and talk about how wrong it is for them to have adult rights and autonomy because it’s “gross” for them to have sex with their physical traits. This is happening, we see the stigma against real people.
It’s wild to me you explicitly went after fictional adults being sexualized, surprisingly open of you.
The current mass uptick in censorship has more connection to the exact feelings you’re having and advocating than you want to admit.
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