blackheart-biohazards:
blackheart-biohazards:
“fictional children can’t consent”
I’m sorry I am still mad about this. Watching antis act like fictional characters on the page have some kind of free will, or rights that need to be protected is baffling and alarming.
No characters are capable consent.
I can’t even describe how twisted it is that someone would think that the rights of a fictional character not to be trumped the rights of an author to write about characters being harmed.
And I say this as fictionkin and a fictive.
Writing doesn’t create experience. Someone writing a bad thing doesn’t inflict that on a specific person.
Characters in the page aren’t real.
Fictionkin and fictives are real people who for whatever reason they ascribe to are fictional characters.
But they are not the character concepts themselves and while we can but UPSET by fiction that involves harm to our character concepts it does not inflict harm directly on us the real people.
Fictionkin/fictives and the characters they are represented by in fiction are separate.
Fictional characters can not consent to anything, and the idea of their consent is not important .
The rights of real people walking around in the real world are what matter.
Someone in the replies said they think antis don’t actually understand how harm works, and I think that’s spot-on. I realized this myself some time ago, where I think antis think that CSEM is illegal because it depicts abuse, rather than the truth, which is that it can’t be made without directly abusing a real person (nevermind the very legal existence of things like fake snuff movies, which antis seem to conveniently disregard).
The purity mindset means that if you can sanitize yourself from the concept of child sexual abuse, then nobody can be accused of inflicting it, but just look at any huge purity cult like the Jehovah’s Witnesses and you’ll realize just how blatantly untrue this is. One of the scariest moments in my deconversion from mormonism is that because I didn’t even know what sex really was until I was 17, I could have been easily abused at any time before that and I would have been none the wiser.
I’m extremely lucky to have never been a victim of CSA, but many other mormon children are not so lucky, and because sexual activity of any kind is considered a sin, even the kind that’s inflicted onto you without your consent, children end up carrying this huge burden around that they hide from adults out of shame, and if you’re a mormon your whole life, you’ll probably never understand sex the way someone on the outside might understand it, because even married people who can have sin-free sex will still not be taught how to do it safely, or really anything else. That means sexual abusers in purity cults can frequently get away with it scott-free, especially since mormon and JW communities are extremely tight-knit and sheltered from the “sinful” outside world.
That’s why even if all antis were good and didn’t send death threats to random people, I still can’t get behind their movement, because I’ve seen it before, and I promise it’s not something you or anyone else wants.
Being forbidden from talking about abuse even in a fictional context will always be a breeding ground for real abuse to take place, so excuse me if I’m not on board with censorship on the grounds of “romanticization”, as if that’s not up to interpretation anyway.