renthony: renthony: renthony: renthony: To a homophobe, even the most chaste kiss on the cheek between gay people is exactly as disgusting and degenerate as a hardcore BDSM orgy hosted in the town square, so you may as well ally[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Posts Tagged purity culture
jellogram: As someone who grew up in purity culture it’s hard not to see the parallels with the uwu-ification of lesbians like. You guys can accept queerness but you’re still really struggling with the idea that women are capable of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
It’s not pedophilia or inherently predatory to ship an adult woman character with an older adult male character. It just isn’t. You can be grossed out about it all you like, and you don’t have to ship it. No one[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
No inconvenience at all, anon! My opinion is that “popular media”– that is, commercial, heavily distributed media, already experiences heavy restrictions. Films in a movie theater are given a rating based on their content. Movie theaters won’t allow a film[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
We’re taking a break to re-assess. Tumblr is apparently an incredibly hostile place to freedom of expression once you reach a certain level of visibility. We’re figuring out how we’ll react to that. In the meantime you can keep an[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
shsl-fujoshi: Well, I just got confirmation that just like last time this “isn’t a situation that can be addressed through reddit.” Which means this wasn’t just a mass spam report scenario. Someone at tumblr has actually decided my @blackheartbiohazards account[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I am not going to write fiction about my trauma in a way that you approve of. I am going to write fiction about my trauma in a way that makes me feel better.
I don’t want to talk too much about child abuse directly on my blog, mainly because it tends to attract bad faith arguments, and occasionally the tumblr staff banhammer– But yes, exactly. The people who want to make it an[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
As a fellow fan of Anne Rice, the idea that TERFS, or any pro-censorship element of fandom likes Anne Rice is bonkers to me. I remember really well that one of her book literally starts with underage incest sex– because[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I really just want to make pro-censorship fans sit down and watch the 2002 film “Equilibirum”.
I think people started putting “minors DNI” in their blogs because “OMG you post NSFW content on your blog and yet you have minors following you!!!” was used as ammo in callout posts to drag people’s reputations through the mud.
The average, every day person has the same tools to oppose censorship as they have to oppose every injustice. Refuse to be silent about it. Speak up about it. Don’t let voices who champion censorship and oppression go unopposed. Point[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The fact that you assume that me defending freedom of artistic expression in fiction means that I’m attracted to children says more about you than it says about me. it says you’re a conservative fearmonger who dilutes the reality of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
👋👋👋💖 We shouldn’t have to do that. Published books don’t have to do that. But on the other hand, maybe it would be fun/funny to bring back long FFNET style disclaimers at the beginning of fanfictions. (no it really wouldn’t[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Continuing on the topic of this post about queer coding and if other types of relationship coding exist– Here’s the hell of it. I know this is hard to accept, but– Prior to the modern era, heterosexual incestuous and pedophilic[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
neil-gaiman: ruffboijuliaburnsides: lilykep: littlethingwithfeathers: ruffboijuliaburnsides: mumblingsage: oopsabird: sugarfey: nottonyharrison: nottonyharrison: Idek if this is serious or ironic honestly #like…why use this baby word when you can just say how you feel about it Found this in the original post tags[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
So much of pro-censorship fandom (so called “antiship”) culture seems to boil down to finding a reason for any ship with more spice than mayonnaise or more chemistry than distilled water to be considered morally reprehensible, and considering the people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
hareofhrair: noct-txt: mickstart: Porn gets banned on major internet space -> porn moves to new space -> new space gets surge of popularity usage and investors -> investors want porn gone because you can’t advertise Better Help next to hq[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Literally because I said censorship was bad, and that we shouldn’t ban the reading or writing of fictional stories even when they’re about distasteful and unpleasant topics like child molestation. Here’s the post they were reacting to.
brutallyboned: mikasslime: : You. Don’t. Own. Trauma. Some stranger drawing something isn’t drawing “YOUR TRAUMA” and if anything it’s probably their trauma. You are not nearly that important to random strangers for them to write or create content about your[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Thank you so much for your words of support. 💖 We’re never gonna stop.
catholic school 0/10 🤝 🤝 🤝 You’re exactly right. asserting that everyone of a certain religion is bad is awful and bigoted and never a claim we would make. We have a lot of beliefs that many Christians would not[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
OOOOOH, now it all makes sense. They’re a TERF.
💖 You don’t have to write for a specific audience. 💖 You don’t have to write for any audience. 💖 You don’t have to write for mass market appeal. 💖 You don’t have to know who your audience will be.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Moderation is only relevant in a setting where rules of moderation are imposed. For example, no one in the publishing industry is forced to publish a book that doesn’t conform with their rules. That’s moderation. However if the government attempted[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Stop using the word “criticism” as a shield to excuse yourself when you attack and harass writers on a personal level. Saying “you, the author are a monster, and your fiction is destroying society” is an attack, not a literary[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
As much as people like to parrot “ACAB” and consider their job done, most people– especially people raised with evangelical values– have not done the work of unlearning legalism and understanding morality through the lens of actual harm. To these[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
problematic-faves-appreciation: ────── ────── ────── The perfect responses to people who insist creators “must” write all stories, even those aimed at adults, like a 1980s cartoon PSA and spoon-feed their audiences everything — or else they’ll be accused of being “irresponsible”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Speaking as fictionkin and a fictive system member, I am so tired of seeing kin and fictives trying to police and restrict how other people interact with and discuss fandom, and the fanfiction and art they create and share. Your[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Listen. I don’t believe that seeing acts of evil glorified or romanticized in fiction causes human beings to choose to do evil. But even if I did believe that, I still believe that any amount of censorship of art and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Do you genuinely believe that people should be allowed the choice to do good or to do evil? Or do you actually believe that people should have no choice but to act in a way you personally consider moral. Because[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“Censorship of some topics in fiction and art is good and I would be happy if it were to be enacted in a way I approved of” and “some things should be banned from ever being written or read about[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
To these people anyone who promotes freedom of artistic expression is a pedophile. Because there’s no reason in their mind why someone would not want to censor art and media containing things they think are bad, unless its because they[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You know, when you say these things about a middle aged trans guy who lives with his spouse and cats, and sits on the internet all day promoting freedom of speech and writing stories about imaginary middle aged war criminals,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You cannot blackmail writers and artists into creating the way you want them to by holding your approval hostage. I mean both: you have a social obligation not to attempt to blackmail writers and artists into creating the way you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
There is no reason to hold fanfiction to an imaginary moral standard of censorship that doesn’t apply to published media. Any horrible, twisted, taboo material you can find in fanfiction, you can find in published novels, movies, games, etc. You[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
xx-slug-xx: Antis in the furry fandom are really a big problem right now. As y’all’s eyes on the inside, I just want to kinda fill people in on what’s happening. Pup hood discourse is running rampant rn, which is ironic[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The only people who pro-censorship fans will give the permission to write problematic fiction are the people who are too powerful for them to bully and harass.
Here’s the thing about the argument that fiction the argument that “fiction that portrays bad evil wrong things as good will result in the audience believing that bad evil wrong thing is good in real life.” When fiction impacts us,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
✨ Write and read the stories that you want to. ✨ Write and read the horror and violence that you want to. ✨ Write and read the romance that you want to. ✨ Write and read the ships that you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
People who use the term “proship” to describe themselves use it to mean “ship and let ship.” People who use the term “proship” to describe themselves use it to mean “I ship what I want to ship, and I don’t[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Okay friend, I see that you’re a little confused, so I’m going to help you the best that I can. “Proship” is not an objective term that you can use to describe a ship. It’s not actually *supposed* to be[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
When Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart was asked to describe his test for obscenity in 1964, he responded: “I know it when I see it.” Types of ships that pro-censorship fans have attempted to label as objectionable “proships”: characters who[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“anyone who has nothing to hide has nothing to fear” mentality. They think that censorship won’t affect the people that they consider good and right-thinking, because they assume no good and right-thinking person would ever write something that they personally[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
There is so much to unpack there.
the fandom pro-censorship crowd LOVES to lean into infantilizing themselves and denying their own agency and culpability.
The world is never worse for having your fiction writing in it. Every story you choose to tell and share improves the world a little bit.
If you see a post promoting freedom of artistic expression and denouncing censorship and your first instinct is that OP must be a pedophile and that you need to attempt to discredit their post with the same kind of ‘child[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
☝️ Writing in fiction about an evil, disgusting, immoral or illegal act does not mean that you believe it is good or should be allowed in real life. ☝️ Reading in fiction about an evil, disgusting, immoral or illegal act[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
ceasarslegion: ceasarslegion: Psst You. Yeah, you. Over here When someone says or means “i want to fuck another consenting adult of sound mind who acts like/roleplays as x” it does not mean “i want to fuck x” Yes, this includes[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
♠️ I believe in your right to create fiction that I don’t enjoy. ♠️ I believe in your right to create fiction that I think would be better if it was different somehow. ♠️ I believe in your right to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
It’s so deeply comforting and gratifying to hear that our blog has had a positive influence on people. Thank you so much for taking the time to share your feelings with us, it really makes our day to hear this.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
As we were recently discussing re: togafuka; pro-censorship fans in the danganronpa fandom have some really outlandish ideas about what makes a ship unacceptable.
It always seems to come back to pro-censorship fans believing that they and they alone are the only moral and enlightened enjoyers of media in the world, and that everyone else is a disgusting pervert who only engages with media[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“Queer coding” exists because for a long time it was unacceptable or outright banned to depict characters who were states to be, or implicitly queer. Therefore authors had to sneak depictions of queer characters in through coding with plausible deniability.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dachshun: ^ I’ve made this into a new post because OP instantly blocked me after getting caught out for defending p3dos. That means it won’t show up in the notes, and people will continue to reblog the post innocently thinking[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
runs-red: Some anti-shippers really act like proship means “dangerous offending paraphile who is deeply perverted and cant’ be good in any way and should be kept away from society” instead of just like “person who doesn’t give a flying fuck[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Seeing all the people tag/reblog our post with some variant of “I’m too anxious to leave comments” is very validating about our thesis for why people have stopped interacting with fandom. I think this comment sums it up nicely. And[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
hadeantaiga: incendiarybomb: askinfresh: hadeantaiga: nope-the-weeb: hadeantaiga: I really think everyone needs to truly internalize this: Fictional characters are objects. They are not people. You cannot “objectify” them, because they have no personhood to be deprived of. They have no humanity[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
❣️ “Shipping” characters means that you are interested in the idea of what it would be like if characters were involved in a romantic or sexual relationship with each other. ❣️ Shipping something does not mean that you think that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“But why would you want to imagine, read or write about a relationship that wasn’t healthy, good or desirable to you personally?” I genuinely don’t know how to explain the concept of fiction to you.
I wish I understood why pro-censorship fans think that its normal and okay to treat “shipping” as some kind of sacred moral space away from other types of fiction where only good and pure and desirable things can happen. I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Actually, friend, freedom of expression does mean that it’s okay to ship anything you want. It’s imaginary. It’s not real. ☝️ You’re not obligated as a writer to exclusively write about healthy, normal relationships and sane, moral actions. ☝️ Fictional[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon, this may shock you but the word “pedophile” has an actual definition which does not involve “writing fanfiction about war criminals.”. Anon, I am begging you just to call me a pervert. Not for my sake, but for the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
IDK what to tell you, fam. We ship clones and incest here. 🤷 We also ship people who knife fight one another, torture each other, and hold each other captive for weeks on end. Healthy relationship is not the goal[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
profiction-anomalocaris: problematic-faves-appreciation: whathihello: blackheartbiohazards: You know, it occurs to me that I don’t actually even know what fanfictons pro-censorship fans are objecting to when they say “it’s okay to write about it but not okay to romantcize it.” Because in[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
moonytoastxx: bettylatrepadora: blackheartbiohazards: ✍️ The goal of creating fiction is not always to craft a story that is comfortable or fun for the reader. ✍️ Likewise, not all readers will find the same subject matter and topics comforting or fun.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
frozen-strawberry-cow: i hate it when antis “”“fix”“”“ darkship/comship art to make it ”“"wholesome”“” and say the original artist has “”“wasted talent”“”. like just because you dislike what a creator makes doesnt mean you have to “”“fix”“” what they made. art[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dead-pidoves-dirt-takes: I’m literally begging y’all not to disclose your trauma in order to justify and validate your tastes in fiction. The people who are or you fear are going to get on your case about your fantasies, taste in fiction[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You know, it occurs to me that I don’t actually even know what fanfictons pro-censorship fans are objecting to when they say “it’s okay to write about it but not okay to romantcize it.” Because in pretty much every minor[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Hi anon! Thank you for asking this question. I’m going to answer it in a kind of grumpy tone, but I promise I am not grumpy at you! is it okay to depict unhealthy relationships in fiction (ie minor/adult) when[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Fictional stories and inside your imagination are the only places where you explicitly do not have to be responsible, careful or thoughtful of others. Do whatever you want in fiction and your imagination forever. No one is harmed. You are[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
molsno: What I believe is happening in the case of coming across a public expression of sexuality, or a trans woman in a dress, or someone wearing a BDSM collar, or a woman in a short skirt is that these[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
LOL honestly we’ve had the same experience. Those extremely hetero-normative life-script based imagines just aren’t interesting for us. Same for the life-scripty, heteronormative x reader fic. Every now and then we’ll see a “proship DNI” on a self ship imagine[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You are always free to talk about your writing as much as, and at the level of depth that, you want to. But you never, ever owe anyone an explanation for why you write the fiction that you do, or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
proshippers-against-censorship: Call me a bad person all I want, but I’d rather write a thousand parent-child noncon shipfics than so much as consider telling a single, very real life person to harm themselves or others in any way, shape, or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Controlling and restricting the things people are allowed to write or read about in fiction is authoritarian. Restricting the way, manner and style people are allowed to write about things in fiction is authoritarian. Censorship is always bad. Always.
“You shouldn’t write that because readers might think that it was okay to do in real life.” A person with secure morals will never be convinced to do harm by a mere piece of fiction. “Okay but mentally ill people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
world’s biggest corruption kinkster reminding you that naughty bad fiction doesn’t actually corrupt you. It doesn’t actually work like that.
calling people “antis”: confusing, niche terminology not understood by anyone outside of extremely online shipping discourse. Call them what they are– Pro-censorship fans who attempt to exert control over other people in public fandom spaces through harassment, threats and bullying.
You don’t have to interact with a piece of fiction that you know will be upsetting to you. If you interact with a piece of fiction despite knowing it might be upsetting for you, don’t fucking blame the author about[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
♥️ It’s okay to write or read about sex and romance. ♥️ It’s okay to write or read about sex without romance. ♥️ It’s okay to write or read about romance without sex. ♥️ It’s okay to write or read[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
wendydarlingfics: id-rather-be-home: curseyouperrytheplatypus: notmybabies: curseyouperrytheplatypus: Gay or not gay people above the age of 19 writing/writing smut about teenagers is weird and creepy. When you become an adult you don’t forget what it was like to be young, but you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
c8h7n3o2: People on here will preach about being progressive and then do a 180 as soon as a consenting couple uses the word “daddy” in the bedroom.
creepymutelilbugger: sea-salted-wolverine: Tumblr purity culture thinks this is how AO3 works outta the way gayboy im boutta read Murder Magazine
Why do you believe that people have such fragile morals they will be corrupted by a piece of fiction? Are your morals that fragile? Why do you believe that reading fiction about harm will cause the people who read it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
✏️ There is no reason to assume that an author’s intention with dark elements and evil characters is to sway their audience into believing that those things are good. ✏️ There is no reason to assume that every dark element[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
spoookiepie: spoookiepie: I don’t wanna get too into fandom discourse but this is the funniest, most embarrassing shit I’ve ever read lmao “Why are you watching fucked up slasher movies when Cocomelon is right there?? 🤔”
Yes, exactly. They have the cause and effect backwards. There are not sexist people in real life because they saw sexist themes in fiction. There are sexist themes in fiction because there are sexist people in real life creating fiction.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“proship” is an ideology that means “ship and let ship”. It is the opposite of “antiship” which means “against shipping.” Normal fans sometimes use the term to refer to themselves, to make it clear that they do not harass other[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
paradoxtrollplanet: A general frustration I have with the assumption fiction, especially erotica, reflects the authors morals is that it relies on a very literal interpretation of a text. A movie monster isn’t just a scary creature and an obsessive stalker[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
yeomanrand: nerianasims: failbaby: Super awesome and not at all puritanical The drowned person is an idiot, but now I want 100 different euphemisms for penetrative sex. Do you have any idea how difficult it is to find different ways to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon. It’s not “just something” pro-censorship fans spread to make people look bad. It’s yet another element of pro-censorship fandom culture that’s tied to its conservative authoritarian nature. It’s racism. It’s xenophobia and racism. 👉 “The Japanese are all perverts”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon, thank you so much for this message because thinking of how to answer it, it finally dawned on me in a bolt of inspiration. I finally can put into words why pro-censorship fans will be fans of a piece[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
gremlingottoosilly: Me when I am promoting harm (I’ve been chosen as official ambassador of non-con fiction and I will get the revenue later)