catgirl-catboy: I hate the complaints about the lack of femslash because they fundamentally miss the POINT. The problem isn’t that people are sexist and homophobic, so there’s less wlw. Its more, people are sexist and homophobic, and to combat that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
ALRIGHT FINE. It looks like we’re going to have to turn on logged-in comments only on archive of our own. Spam has ruined it for everyone.
Anon. It’s not “just something” pro-censorship fans spread to make people look bad. It’s yet another element of pro-censorship fandom culture that’s tied to its conservative authoritarian nature. It’s racism. It’s xenophobia and racism. 👉 “The Japanese are all perverts”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Hey friend, I hope I can clear this up for you. “Proship” is a piece of fandom terminology that means that a person in not in favor of censoring the content of fanfiction, and is not in favor of harassing[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sniznuff: i hate how doc scratch and lord english are slept on by every homestuck fan. those fuckers changed the scope of everything to do with sburb using two different species from two different universes. they ARE the sburb. there[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
See, here’s the thing. ➡️ When you have a community term that your community originally defined as “supporter of freedom of expression in fiction and artwork”– ➡️ but your enemies insist means “active child abuser”– ➡️ and the term is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
the pro-censorship crowd that loves gore and violence and hates anything to do with sex are so classically puritan. It’s hilarious when it’s not infuriating. Censorship protects the expression of those in power and suppresses the expression of those not[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
tell me Will, why do you imagine that adults creating fiction about underage characters necessitates exposing underage children to that fiction? Minors are already not supposed to look at sexual fictional content– why would they be looking at adult content[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
paulgadzikowski: orlissa: Oh dear. Okay, you get an answer, because at least you took the effort to write your ask out properly, even if you are hiding behind the grey, sunglassed circle. Do I, or any fanfic author for that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
It is not any other fan’s job to appreciate a character that you like and find compelling and interesting. Sometimes a canon fails to make a character compelling and interesting for the majority of a fandom of that work. Often[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
If you are a person who: Has violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys having violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive characters Creates fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive characters And[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
If you are a person who: Has violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys having violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive characters Creates fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive characters And[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The two most important fandom skills are: 📌 Ignoring things you don’t like 😔 📌 having fun!!! 🥰
blackheart-biohazards: If you are a person who: Has violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys having violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive characters Creates fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive chacters[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
♦ It’s good to write fiction and make art about queer characters. ♦ It’s good to write romantic fiction and make romantic art about queer characters. ♦ It’s good to write sexual fiction and make sexual art about queer characters.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Gay marriage? Transgender discourse? Kink discourse? I could probably go on.
“Proship” means you don’t believe people should be harassed, threatened or insulted for the fiction and art they create, even if you personally find what they’re making to be gross, upsetting or in some way immoral. “Proship” means you believe[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis: who do you trust to be in charge of censoring out things that you find harmful, without censoring things that you don’t find harmful, but others may? Please answer, remembering that you can not personally be in charge of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
We are so glad that we’ve inspired you, anon, and made you feel safer to share your creations. We don’t care what people are creating, we just want everybody to be able to create and share what they want to,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Right? it always seems like “be critical of your interests” is code for “you’re not allowed to have fun”.
i fucking hate proship/anti discourse because i feel like the fact that those words even exist is fucked up. it takes an issue (that people are drawing porn of underage characters and posting that shit on the internet) and turns[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Can’t win ‘em all! I wish teenagers who wrote smut knew not to go around telling everyone how old they are. “On the internet nobody knows you’re a dog” as we used to say.
Ship and let ship! 👉 Hate and harassment make fandom a toxic place for everyone. 👉 Hate and harassment decreases overall participation in fandom; it doesn’t just chase away people you don’t like. 👉 Hate and harassment discourages everyone from[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I wish we could all go back to saying “x is implied to be a y” or “the subtext is that x is a y” instead of “x is y-coded”. The “coded” language is all just button pushing meant to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
If you are a person who: Has violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys having violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive characters Creates fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive chacters And[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I think mostly antis hear their conservative, eugenicist parents use the term and then parrot it back without considering the full implications. Yes, they want us all dead. But they don’t understand that they, sweet baby queers that most of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
📢 Moral and immoral are not immutable qualities everyone agrees on. 📢 You are not obligated to listen to people who tell you that the fiction you enjoy carries moral weight. 📢 Trying to dictate what type of fiction is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yet another anti who actually says out loud that they want to normalize bullying and harassment. Stay classy.
You cannot increase the agency of one group (children) by diminishing the agency of another group (adults). Censorship does not make children safer, because there is no safe authority to decide what is censored. Censorship takes away the tools of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Thinking about tropes, and comfort, and self care, and squicks and triggers and blocking this morning, and how different they are for everyone. What’s comforting to one person, might be a squick or trigger to someone else, and vice versa.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“Do you realize that whatever we fantasize about matters to God? He is intimately aware and involved in our spiritual development. As Christians, it is critical that we censor our imaginations, because wrong thoughts can easily become wrong attitudes that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I totally get feeling embarrassed about it. A lot of our opinions about rpf formed when we were 16 in high school and one of the girls in our friend-circle wrote a lot of explicit smut about the band Good[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
To me this sounds like a case of the reader interpreting the text in a way other than the interpretation that the original author intended. Which is always totally fine. The author is “dead” after all. This is exactly the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Children who deliberately violate their own boundaries and then cry that someone should have stopped them from being able to do so don’t get any sympathy from me. It’s like, do you want agency, or not? Why do you want[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis can’t accept that once something is out in the world, you have no control over how others perceive it or interact with it. Honestly it’s not just antis who act that way though, sometimes.
By “stop this cycle of abuse” you mean stop bullying and harassing people over their fiction and art, right? Right? Oh that’s not what you meant??
That’s a hell of an imposing strawman you’ve got right there. Gonna bring him to life with some magic powder?
Dear antis: You can’t see into a writer’s mind, and you can’t know the intentions they had when writing something unless they state their intentions directly. When you read something and you feel like it is glamorizing, glorifying, or promoting[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The funniest (and worst) thing I have seen is antis who write fiction involving sexual assault, but claim that its fine for them to write, but its bad for anyone who calls themselves proship to write because proshippers “romanticize” it.
marshemillow: Oh my god, we’re really doing this again? Are we? Are we really doing this again? Anon, I am tired. I am so fucking tired. I’m really sorry, whoever this is, I don’t even know you, and you may[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Just because someone ships something doesn’t mean they believe that that relationship is healthy, ideal, desirable, or sustainable. People can ship things just because they’re interesting. Shipping something doesn’t mean you think its good or right. People don’t owe you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
What is triggering content? We talk a lot about how antis don’t seem to understand that the things that make them upset are comforting to some people, and the things that are comforting to them are upsetting and traumatic to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
We’re not a huge fan of it, but we wouldn’t unfollow somebody over it, or blame them for it. A death threat message is targeted violence against the person it’s sent to. I can’t blame someone for responding violently against[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I gotta agree. If we agree that antis shouldn’t be making “jokes” about violence against proshippers, then there’s no way in hell we can be okay with jokes about violence against antis without being massive fucking hypocrites.
Please remember: ♦ No person is sole arbiter of what is or isn’t disgusting, upsetting, triggering, or immoral. ♦ What you feel is wholesome and comforting can be disgusting, upsetting, triggering, or immoral to another person. ♦ There is no[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Reminder: –“proshippers are pedophiles” and –“proship means you support incest and under age relationship in real life” are lies made up by antis to attack proshippers. Proship means you are pro (for) shipping, and you don’t police what other people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I am seeing it more and more frequently. People want to have their problematic content but still tell everyone that they think proshippers are icky. Its…. frustrating. Its all because antis have twisted the meaning of proship so that people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Reminder: ✨ Shipping something doesn’t mean you think a relationship between those characters is healthy, desirable or ideal. It just means you want to see content of it for any reason. ✨ Being proship does not mean you support or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Imagine genuinely believing–enough to say out loud– that you believe that cruelty and emotional torture directed at strangers solves problems and should be encouraged. I find it very hard to put myself in those shoes.
antishipping: Adults who still write fanfiction really need to just grow up and get a life. Because it’s totally kids that are dedicating their time to typing up 600k+ words, constantly proof-reading every chapter they produce, making sure their work[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The answer to this is much more complicated than the answer with regard to fiction that only involves purely fictional characters. It’s honestly not something I’m generally comfortable discussing, if only because it’s not relevant to me. I’m not a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…