Just came back from the deep, dark gold mines of a 2011-2014 era fandom rp blog, and it was a really stark and shocking reminder of how much attitudes toward shipping have changed (in a negative way) in the last[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Posts Tagged ship and let ship
warmshotamilk: Fandoms as a whole started going downhill when “they’re like siblings so it’s weird to ship them!” started being viewed as a valid reason to hate people for shipping things
We went ahead and updated the Fanlore page on tumblr and the fanlore page on the Timeline of Major Fandom Purges to reflect tumblr’s ban on underage fiction. If anyone wants to add more detail please feel free, otherwise we’ll[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
How to prepare for, and recover from, getting your account terminated Here are some ways you can be prepared to recover from a termination with a new account. NUMBER ONE TIP: Create a task to auto-backup every post you make[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
People seem to think that “proship” means you are fine with all ships, and there aren’t ships that squick, trigger or bother you. That’s not true at all. We have LOTS of ships that bother us, and we block them.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Having squicks triggers, preferences and boundaries doesn’t make you an anti. Proship means “ship and let ship”– that you don’t harass people for what they’re doing. you stay in your yard, and they stay in theirs. Trust me, my friend,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
@things-antis-say Rest in peace π―π―π― (I’m playing taps for your account) We’re so sorry to hear that your account got nuked, partly because that means we’ve all lost access to the excellent library of antishipper harassment and hypocrisy that you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The two most important fandom skills are: π Ignoring things you don’t like π π having fun!!! π₯°
I may write weird and gross fictional ships but at least I don’t bully and threaten strangers! π₯° Sending love to everyone who has been bullied or threatened over the content of their writing or ships.
thebibliosphere: I had therapy this week. I’m convinced I don’t pay my therapist enough because of all the weird online shit she has to learn about to help me unpack, but anyway. In therapy this week, we talked about the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I don’t think that makes you a hypocrite, anon. People, all people, are allowed to have ships they don’t like. You’re allowed to complain about it an insult it in private. As long as you’re not being outwardly hostile to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The problem again and again comes back to fancops not understanding, and not wanting to understand, that people have experiences that are different from their own. They want everyone to be “normal”, as in “like them.”
People don’t want to learn about things for themselves, they just want to be told the answer. The human mind also makes it easy for the “scariest” answer to be equated in our brains with the “truest” answer. So sometimes[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Fancops like to have it both ways. On the one hand they consider their bullying and abuse to have no affect on people because its “just online” and its “words on a screen”. But at the same time they insist[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
π€ thoughts do not equate to harm. π€ fiction does not equate to harm. π€ art does not equate to harm. π€ only harmful actions equate to harm. Thinking about something, enjoying thoughts about something, enjoying or creating fiction ot[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
blackheart-biohazards: If you are a person who: Has violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys having violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive characters Creates fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive chacters[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I am so dreadfully tired of all these “"antis”“ who think that it’s charming and noble to dictate to other people what stories they’re allowed to tell and how they are and are not allowed to play make believe. It’s[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
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β¦ Itβs good to write fiction and make art about queer characters. β¦ Itβs good to write romantic fiction and make romantic art about queer characters. β¦ Itβs good to write sexual fiction and make sexual art about queer characters.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Thank you for not bullying people over fiction π Thank you for not being a jerk to people who write or draw things that you don’t like.
Dear police. I am writing to you to confess to the heinous crime of having written fiction in which imaginary characters commit and befall many actions of a perverse, obscene and illegal nature. I remit myself to your custody and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
It’s always okay to feel that something is: icky, gross, upsetting, disturbing, disgusting, repellant, triggering, nasty, weird, unsightly or in bad taste. What isn’t okay is: insulting that thing to it’s creators face, wishing violence on that thing’s creator and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
blackheart-biohazards: β€οΈβπ₯ There is nothing special and bad about sex in fiction. β€οΈβπ₯ Abusive, ‘nasty’, illegal, or taboo sex in fiction isn’t any worse than anything else bad in fiction. β€οΈβπ₯Reading or writing about a type of sex in fiction[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon, I’m going to be real with you. I’m in the fandom that has a lot of actual 6000 year old dragon lolis in it. (Fire Emblem). And lots of people (outside anti communities) create lewd work of the 6000[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon, we are so glad that you have gotten yourself out of that toxic mindset. Please take care of yourself, and have fun!
We are realizing more and more than antis have no concept of people who think and believe in a way other than the way they think and believe. Antis seem to believe that there is only one category of people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Fancops seem to believe that “all things that are illegal are bad.” and “all things that are bad are illegal.” Which is just like, really fascinating to me. Like, what a thing to believe.
On Tuesday, May 29, 2007, LJers – users of the then-popular blogging site Livejournal – woke up to find that their Friends lists were showing a large number of names that had been crossed out, or strikethrough ‘ed. It turned[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Except sometimes they DO call law enforcement! and the law enforcement says: stop sending us stuff about fiction, it takes our resources away from investigating actual real crime.
Take a look at this person who is saying the quiet part out loud. It’s not that they think proshippers cause harm, it’s that they’re weird. Not only does this person think that being weird is bad, they think you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The idea that there is something special and magical about sexual arousal and desire that takes away your willpower and good judgement is a lie made up by rapists to excuse rape.
β€οΈβπ₯ There is nothing special and bad about sex in fiction. β€οΈβπ₯ Abusive, ‘nasty’, illegal, or taboo sex in fiction isn’t any worse than anything else bad in fiction. β€οΈβπ₯Reading or writing about a type of sex in fiction will[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yup. But it’s not about protection. It’s about ship wars. The morality is just a tool to bully people out of making ship content for anything that isn’t their ship.
π Thank you to all shippers in fandom who spread kindness and joy! π Thank you to all shippers in fandom who spend their time celebrating the things they love! π Thank you to all shippers in fandom who create[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Hi, anon. I understand that you’re going through a lot right now. The world is unfair, and it feels like there is very little in your life that you can actually control. I understand that lashing out, and saying cruel[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Just a reminder: β¦ Any content that is not against Tumblr’s TOS is allowed in the ‘main tag’ of a relevant fandom. β¦ It is not your duty or right to police the content of tumblr’s tags beyond what breaks[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“Proship” means you don’t believe people should be harassed, threatened or insulted for the fiction and art they create, even if you personally find what they’re making to be gross, upsetting or in some way immoral. “Proship” means you believe[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
We got kicked out of a pathologic discord for sharing art of two sibling characters that somebody decided “looked shippy” and whipped up a witch hunt. So , I feel you anon. It sucks when intolerant people make spaces narrower[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I want every person involved in the debate about proship/antiship, censorship of fiction, harassment, art by traumatized and mentally ill people and what art constitutes “pedo shit” to please: watch this documentary about Henry Darger, or at least read up[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Absolutely, and also it’s just an asshole move to mock people for liking things with intensity. [Photo ID: A political cartoon that has been edited. It takes place at a climate summit and someone at a podium has his hand[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
What antis see when I’m shipping characters with a 10 year age gap:
Some people try to force the world around them to adapt to what they want, rather than adapting themselves to the world as it exists. I’m the same way as you, anon. There are plenty of mutuals we have that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Don’t you think this is a strange and uncomfortable– even rude– question to ask someone out of the blue, anon? Why are you speculating about the kind of pornography we write? I’m feeling a bit sexually harassed.
It is so good to hear about people who have supportive friends, anon. We usually only hear people talk about the friends people feel like they have to hide from. I hope everybody who reads this has, or is soon[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
π It’s okay to make bad art. π It’s okay to make art in bad taste. π You have a right to make art that others consider to be of poor quality. π You have a right to make art[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
We’ve lived through the worst of it. We had Something Awful threads and Encyclopedia Dramatica articles, etc, about us back in the day. We try to treat fancops, harassers and trolls online like we would any real world terrorist or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Always happy to help people yell on anon! And as far as this person goes… Proship just means anyone they don’t like, at this point. Alternatively the charitable interpertation would be that they’re secretly proship and have “proships dni” on[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“I think it will be an interesting idea to explore” And “I think it will be fun” Are both always good enough reasons to justify creating or engaging with any art or fiction!
words-of-holly: In light of certain reblogs to this account, I feel like I should clear something up for people who might be questioning or thinking some things about me. In my description, I use the termΒ βship and let ship,β which[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Optimistically, I think it’s shrinking. I feel like we’re getting less hate and seeing less anti garbage in the tags than even a few months ago.
Youtube shorts keeps giving me those “ships i hate” shortsTHEYRE ALL YUMMY DELICOUS SHIPS AND WHILE SOME ARENT NORMALLY MY THING THEY ARE NOW-idk who’s fronting but its @antiproshipping
I don’t know how YouTube shorts works but that sounds shitty lol. At least you’ve got new shipping material!
Honestly just blocking them on sight is the pro strat for people who don’t wanna get dragged into B’s and just vibe. More power to you anon. π
“I’ve had enough of idiots in this fandom trying to force other characters into Cecil and Carlos’a relationship.” “I would say a mean word right now that starts with the letter r (…)” This post is an excellent reminder that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I love nasty ships! I love gross ships! I love toxic ships! I love villain ships! I love forbidden ships! I love taboo ships!
Yeah, the hypocrisy and lack of self evaluation from fanpol is wild.
Proship community: Thinks you should write or draw anything that you want to. Discourages harassment and threats against any person, calls out and rejects community members who engage in harassment behavior. Focused positively; share and comment on works and opinions[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
AO3 has been apparently removed from search engine results in Germany due to a complaint to Google that it may be illegal under German youth protection laws. This is exactly why its important for AO3 to be hosted on its[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
kokonoiscoconut: Let people ship what they want to ship. Mind your business and block tags instead of bitching about proshippers. “But but it’s problematic” I don’t remember them asking for your opinion, filter tags and shut up. Also, people who[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Sometimes the specific way some fancops talk about “proships DNI” exits the realm of sounding like enforcing a social boundary, and enters the realm of sounding like a child on the playground screaming: “EWWW!! EWW!! COOTIES!! DONT TOUCH ME THEYVE[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Hybrid ship and crossbreed/xbreed ship both sound too much like they’re referring to potential offspring of the couple, which I personally find squicky and others might too. Dog ship or feral ship? I kinda like companion ship though. I feel[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Hmm, I have no idea. There certainly might be a use for a term for “I don’t consider their ages when shipping them, and it doesn’t come up in the fic” if only for people who don’t like that to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Tag Ship Ask game Tag Ship: a ship between a child character and a teenage character πΒ Are you in any fandoms that have a canonical tag ship relationship between two characters? π What are your tag ships? π€ What[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Keep self shipping, proshippers! Our F/Os love and support us, and love how we fill the tags with fun, interesting content that anyone can share and enjoy!
Lol. I’d say more but that’s all the response this deserves at this point. Fancops are unhinged.
lucifers-salty-dickholder: blackheart-biohazards: I’m mean, we’re not the arbiter of who is or isn’t ‘allowed’ to do anything. But yeah its really hypocritical and indicative of cognitive dissonance for them to like those characters. I think the thing is that antis[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
tribulation-of-somnolence: king-of-general-disarray: I am not the person to be asking this Per @blackheart-biohazards Tag ship!
That’s a great one and we’ll add it asap!
Cradle Ship Ask game Cradle Ship: a ship between a child character and an adult character π₯ Are you in any fandoms that have a canonical cradleship relationship between two characters? π What are your cradle ships? π§΅ What are[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Please! We would love it if people linked it and spread it around!
I’m mean, we’re not the arbiter of who is or isn’t ‘allowed’ to do anything. But yeah its really hypocritical and indicative of cognitive dissonance for them to like those characters.
ill-ship-what-i-want: blackheart-biohazards: princesstoxicbutterfly-deactiva: Well it wouldn’t matter because they are fictional lol These characters aren’t real and they can’t get hurt lol I’m not a pedophile lol Antis are so unhinged! There’s no one experiencing the fic you write or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
We don’t have all that many, buuuuuut…. Wendy and Tigerlilly from Peter Pan. Ash and Gary from Pokemon Waaaay back in the day we used to ship first year Draco and Harry from Harry Potter. (We’re not in HP fandom[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
princesstoxicbutterfly-deactiva: Well it wouldn’t matter because they are fictional lol These characters aren’t real and they can’t get hurt lol I’m not a pedophile lol Antis are so unhinged! There’s no one experiencing the fic you write or art you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Toy Ship Ask game Toy Ship: a ship between two child characters πΊ Are you in any fandoms that have a canonical toy ship relationship between two characters? π What are your toy ships? π What are some themes about[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Daverose is shipcest. What are you doing shipping daverose and being an anti??? logic machine broke.
We don’t currently use mastodon, but we’d be open to learning how to use it as well, if fandom ends up migrating toward that direction. I’ve heard of proship mastodon instances, but the major one is closed to new entries[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
scientistservant: I propose we call/tag antis by what they really are: fancops/fanpolice
dead-pidove-do-not-eat: Wow I really spit, when I emotionally spiral. This is a journal entry from last night, edited for clarity and to not point fingers at specific people, but at ideology. I was really angry. And I try not to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Shipping Glossary het ship: A ship between a male character and a female character. OTP: One true pairing. Refers to the shippers prefered ship for the characters involved. self ship: A ship between a canon character and the shipper themselves,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I’m working on a shipping glossary carrd.
“if you can’t say something nice, don’t say nothing at all.” – Thumper, from Bambi Wishing all fancops a very “I hope this fiction affects your reality”.
antiproshipping: just-antithings: crimson-corviknight: just-antithings: bringing back these classics bc I think that yβall should be reminded of the flawless logic and morality of antis Is… Is the “GOD FORBID MURDER” thing in reference to people saying that sending death threats[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Ah yes making people safer by Conflating unrelated groups Accusing fiction writers of violent crime Wishing violence and death on people. Classic!
Shipping terms for searching and blacklisting So far we have toy ship: A ship between two child characters teen ship: A ship between two teen characters tag ship: A a ship between a teen character and a child character cradle[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I propose scale ship for a ship that you want to signify has a significant power imbalance in some way, but you wouldn’t consider it dubcon/pick ship. Scale of course talking about the balance of the scales being tipped. How[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yes! we’ve been trying to think of a way to separate this too. maybe cradle ship for adult x child and xgen ship (cross generation) ship for adult x teen? I’d say just gen ship but gen already means something[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Gosh, honestly not uncommon!! Harry’s (πΊπ) weird crush on Snively from the archie sonic comics and SATAM was in an incest way too. I wonder if its a Sonic thing… hehe!! ^^
Our dad says we had a thing for the Purple Pie Man from Strawberry Shortcake which might be true too… π€
Ooooh, the harsh girl type! they are so cute! You might have love the “dark princess” from Rainbow Brite and the Star Stealer! π
To be fair, Leon Kennedy is super cute, and the ads for him were everywhere!! ^^
marshemillow: Fandom back in the day: “Yeah dude, I love gay noncon monsterfucking serial killers in fiction, those are my favorite. I wonder though if we should put warnings on things like that?” Fandom now: “Having a childhood crush is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
For two underage characters there’s toy ship if they’re both below their teens. I suggest teen ship, direct as it is, for when both characters are in their teens. For a mixed teen/child romance perhaps tag ship (referring to how[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Hmmm, #shipcest is in pretty heavy use, so we might not want to mess with it! That said, if we want to fit the pattern we could always go with kin ship, or the slightly less elegant blood ship. (I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
demongender-vibes: blackheart-biohazards: Don’t bully people and pretend it makes you morally superior. You harass proshippers because it’s no longer socially acceptable to put together cringe compilations of autistic amateur artists who draw themselves kissing Disney’s Genie. to be fair the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
just-antishipper-things: I will go out of my way to find something sexually suggestive about your perfectly innocent art of this fictional character, and then berate you for being a gross monster who is sexualizing this character. No, YOU’RE the problem!