anti-anti-otonokoji-twins: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: a site that allows works that profit off their oppression This is a meaningless and incorrect statement. First of all, AO3 doesn’t profit AT ALL. Second of all, hosting fanfiction doesn’t[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Posts Tagged proship discourse
antiproshipping: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: a site that allows works that profit off their oppression This is a meaningless and incorrect statement. First of all, AO3 doesn’t profit AT ALL. Second of all, hosting fanfiction doesn’t profit on anyone’s oppression.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: a site that allows works that profit off their oppression This is a meaningless and incorrect statement. First of all, AO3 doesn’t profit AT ALL. Second of all, hosting fanfiction doesn’t profit on anyone’s oppression. Other[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
It’s illegal if it’s visual material indistinguishable from a photograph of a real child. As far as I’m aware there has been no case where written fiction about a living minor has been prosecuted in the United states. Again, I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis don’t understand how AO3 works at all.
chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: a site that allows works that profit off their oppression This is a meaningless and incorrect statement. First of all, AO3 doesn’t profit AT ALL. Second of all, hosting fanfiction doesn’t profit[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: a site that allows works that profit off their oppression This is a meaningless and incorrect statement. First of all, AO3 doesn’t profit AT ALL. Second of all, hosting fanfiction doesn’t profit on anyone’s[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: a site that allows works that profit off their oppression This is a meaningless and incorrect statement. First of all, AO3 doesn’t profit AT ALL. Second of all, hosting fanfiction doesn’t profit on anyone’s oppression. Other[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
chaos-in-one: blackheart-biohazards: a site that allows works that profit off their oppression This is a meaningless and incorrect statement. First of all, AO3 doesn’t profit AT ALL. Second of all, hosting fanfiction doesn’t profit on anyone’s oppression. Other people’s fanfic[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Reminder: –“proshippers are pedophiles” and –“proship means you support incest and under age relationship in real life” are lies made up by antis to attack proshippers. Proship means you are pro (for) shipping, and you don’t police what other people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
This post is an embarrassment on every level. Yelling about proshippers with no context Rick and Morty fan but an anti Incorrect about what Tumblr bans Repeats sad, tired lie that proships are pedophiles
marshemillow: things-antis-say: this stargazer guy is 13, btw “it took me two years to get out of the community,” bruh where are your fucking parents. how are you even allowed to have this much unmonitored internet access. why are you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
a site that allows works that profit off their oppression This is a meaningless and incorrect statement. First of all, AO3 doesn’t profit AT ALL. Second of all, hosting fanfiction doesn’t profit on anyone’s oppression. Other people’s fanfic is not[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
When we were in middle school, we were regularly mis-aged as being 18+ specifically because of the size of our bust. We were regularly both body shamed and sexually harassed for this trait, and gaslit to believe we deserved it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis really need to learn what an erotic thriller is, and understand why they’re appealing.
Remember; calling yourself an anti will not save you from being attacked and harassed by other antis with a more restrictive definition of proship than you.
“I shouldn’t have to say this” communicates nothing but their desire to telegraph their moral outrage to everyone reading.
👉 Fictional characters cannot be abused. 👉 Consent does not apply to fictional characters. 👉 The only question of consent in fiction is the consent of the author, and the consent of the reader. An author cannot write anything they[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I am seeing it more and more frequently. People want to have their problematic content but still tell everyone that they think proshippers are icky. Its…. frustrating. Its all because antis have twisted the meaning of proship so that people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
This is super true, and its been shown to be true over and over. I really genuinely think that antis have a very unhealthy obsession with uncovering secret pedophiles. Not to get political but it reminds me of certain other[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dead-pidove-do-not-eat: It’s so funny when antis use the “endorsement” argument, because they really do pick and choose which pieces of fiction “endorses” something and which don’t, based off of their personal comfort level with the themes. If you said that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Assuming that someone who thinks 30 is old must be a child isn’t ageism, dear. Describing a child as a child isn’t ageism. Saying that someone can not do something because of their age or must do something because of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon, I’m with you. Those attitudes are exhausting. Just let people do what they want in the bedroom and in fiction.
antishipping: with the trend of antis reporting and encouraging to report fictional content to cybertip and similar services, let me just say as a csa survivor myself, this fucking sickens me to extreme levels. call it exaggeration all you want,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
LMAO. The immaturity and entitlement in this ask is overwhelming. Firstly, the fact that you signed up to tumblr for “wholesome content” is a) hilarious, and b) your problem, not mine. Learn to curate your content; block blogs and tags[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
: Yes pro shipping is often a very healthy coping skill but also normalize telling people that’s none of their business. Like smoking/vaping isn’t healthy but do you go up to folks smoking and lecture them about the health effects?[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
toxic-blogman: Either all fiction is reality or none of it is, you don’t get to arbitrarily pick and choose based on what you do and do not like if you claim that sexualizing fictional children is the same as, or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You’re not confused. That’s what they were saying. While I’m not going to excuse proshippers at all…It’s the writers’ fault for catering to them.
lemonastims: blackheart-biohazards: littlealeta: blackheart-biohazards: littlealeta: blackheart-biohazards: Totally a fair response, anon! I’m not in the fandom myself, but it certainly has been a hell of a thing to watch happen. While I’m not going to excuse proshippers at all, I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
littlealeta: blackheart-biohazards: littlealeta: blackheart-biohazards: Totally a fair response, anon! I’m not in the fandom myself, but it certainly has been a hell of a thing to watch happen. While I’m not going to excuse proshippers at all, I don’t put[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
littlealeta: blackheart-biohazards: Totally a fair response, anon! I’m not in the fandom myself, but it certainly has been a hell of a thing to watch happen. While I’m not going to excuse proshippers at all, I don’t put full blame[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
And they will never (as a group) acknowledge this. V_V
I think what’s happening is that they tell themselves that the show isn’t “glorifying” or “romanticizing” it, whether or not that’s true; meanwhile they believe any fanfiction of the same topics is automatically supporting those themes irl. I feel like[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
you are one mean anon away from becoming proship i know it. This is exactly what I mean when I say that antis are constantly policing one another, and turning on each other. Villainfuckers, please come to the proship side.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
antishipping: dear god. what have i just stumbled upon. shippers don’t become oppressed when some people in fandom find their creations and favorite genres of content to be icky. shippers become oppressed when people constantly harass them, regularly send them[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
awabubbles: disdaidal: “fandoms are dying” yeah well here’s a cool idea: start creating and start reblogging. leave nice comments to your favorite creators. send them prompts. start interacting with others. sounds wild, right? start it today. keep these fandoms alive.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I wish I could tell you the logic behind it, anon, but I don’t understand it myself. But it very much does seem to be the case that antis love dark, gruesome, problematic fiction, and then want to hold the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Another day, another person saying “freak” like it’s a bad thing. V_V
brettdoesdiscourse: blackheart-biohazards: Two things, screenshop OP: Firstly: when you post your work to a public archive, you do not get to chose who interacts with it except within the bounds of the controls that the archive you upload to extends[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
catharsis-scrawled: proudfreakselfshipper: blackheart-biohazards: Seeing so many posts and meta-posts about how people don’t know what proship means (ie. posts about “not proship but a secret third thing” etc) I am starting to wonder something. Would it be prudent to retire[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Seeing so many posts and meta-posts about how people don’t know what proship means (ie. posts about “not proship but a secret third thing” etc) I am starting to wonder something. Would it be prudent to retire “proship”? No one[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
king-of-general-disarray: I don’t want to respond to the actual post but – – “I’m not proship or anti, but a secret, third thing!” *describes what being proship is* LEARN WHAT PROSHIP ACTUALLY MEANS
things-antis-say: it’s always funny when you ask antis legit questions or to explain the hypocrisy behind their beliefs, and they just go “proshit dni!!!!” and ignore literally every word that was said and by “funny,” i mean an indicator that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Imagine seeing 11 whole fics total of something and thinking of was a big scary number. RIP to little mac enjoyers, sorry y’all have no content.
chaos-event-horizon: I think the thing about it is like… Being “pro-ship” was never a community the way being an anti is. Being pro-ship or pro-fiction just seems to mean that you don’t necessarily care what other people ship, as long[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
They could, but how would people know how moral and upstanding they were if they didn’t talk about how much they hate and want to hurt nasty icky proshippers? How would proshippers know how awful and icky they were if[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
cleverinternetkingdom: Link to the article if you want to read it, I didn’t because I didn’t want to give them the click. But if you do want to read it here’s some highlights from the comments about it before you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
wandering-wolf23: antishipping: cleverinternetkingdom: That’s stupid a 14yrold can feel discomfort over anything like murder, same sex couples, and even just eating meat. So don’t write ANYTHING because anything can cause discomfort. I find family fics/family coded thing extremely uncomfortable. I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
No two antis have the same opinion of what’s proship. Every time I see an anti who likes dubcon or something posting about how they don’t understand why they’re being attacked by other antis, and that their ship isn’t proship[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I see two possibilities: Possibility A: they care about the feelings of fictional characters who they can control more than the feelings of real people with their own ideas. Possibility B: Misogyny and transphobia since the majority of fandom participation[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
proshipselfship: Genuinely, a lot of people on this site (and beyond) seem to have no idea what normalization actually means. So let me elaborate: If you see art of a ship that would be illegal/wrong irl, and you immediately know[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Cool? idk, but they seem to feel very righteous about it.
I don’t want to speculate how they react to these things in real life, because every possibility makes me sad.
All I will say is that one side is well know for harassing people and bullying them, and the other side is known for writing weird fanfic and protecting others right to write weird fanfic. I’m not surprised you’ve had[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Reminder: ✨ Shipping something doesn’t mean you think a relationship between those characters is healthy, desirable or ideal. It just means you want to see content of it for any reason. ✨ Being proship does not mean you support or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis in the chainsaw man fandom really feels like the punchline to a joke.
After reflection, I decided to delete both of those csm posts, just because I don’t want to accidentally send anybody to their blogs. Here are the posts for archival purposes. (Camil is an anti and commander an ‘anti sjw’ I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Honey that’s proship. Either that or hypocrisy.
spite-shipping: as an aroace person, shut up. shipping and headcanons do not take away from canon representation, and this post ignores the inherent hypocrisy with this stance. which is that you’re saying that no one can headcanon a character as[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
antishipping: fanpol save the day
So I’m guessing someone in the spamton fandom turned out to be proship tonight, because spamton is the connective thread between the blogs in this trio of posts I saw in a row.
Where do I start with this post?
Great thread right now on Reddit about ships not needing to be healthy https://www.reddit.com/r/FanFiction/comments/yqf274/ships_do_not_have_to_be_healthy/?sort=top
I think part of the problem is antis seem to insistently define “shipping” as supporting a pairing as if you always believe its an ideal and healthy relationship.
I don’t think you’ll like the answer, anon. Most of these antis are from the western world, and most of them from the USA specifically. Western society is culturally christian, and america specifically is heavily influenced by puritanical ideas. The[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis don’t want to live in a world where other people think about sex they find icky :c
rolkstone: doctor-darling: ratofautism: doctor-darling: ratofautism: doctor-darling: marshemillow: doctor-darling: ratofautism: Proshippers when the cops break into their fucking house: “ But officer! the DNI goes both ways! 🙁 ” What part of being a proshipper do you believe is illegal? This[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis don’t care about murder though, just nasty dirty bad sex. Actually that’s not true. Antis LOVE murder and violence! you can tell because they talk about murdering and doing violence to proshippers constantly.
ratofautism: blackheart-biohazards: ratofautism: blackheart-biohazards: ratofautism: blackheart-biohazards: marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: ratofautism: Proshippers when the cops break into their fucking house: “ But officer! the DNI goes both ways! 🙁 ” What part of being a proshipper do you believe is illegal? This[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
things-antis-say: yeah lmao, i knew they were batshit you didn’t have to tell me that also, it’s fine if you don’t want to label yourself, but… i feel compelled to inform you that “i don’t care what you do, as[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
blackheart-biohazards: My favorite thing about antis is how they all agree what counts as “proship”. (sarcasm)
My favorite thing about antis is how they all agree what counts as “proship”. (sarcasm)
At this point maybe it’s more helpful to put down the “lolis don’t even look real” argument. I totally agree, but maybe it’s more helpful to point out that fictional porn preferences can share zero correlation with RL desires, since[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
People are not obligated to produce only content that makes you personally feel comfortable. You are not owed a comfortable environment in all public media content spaces.
👍Pro-: prefix meaning for, in support of. 💕Ship: noun, verb; meaning romantic or sexual content between fictional characters. Proship: in support of romantic or sexual content between fictional characters. Proship: in support of people who create and consume romantic or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
proship-confessions: . antis thing proship means “someone who ships things I personally find disgusting.”
hummerhouse: manletsexual: i appreciate that you’re not being outright hostile, but i have to say, that on its own put you above basically every anti i’ve interacted with. i understand where antis are coming from, i really do. there are[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
wandering-wolf23: As a proshipper, it is not my problem if children wander into an area that is clearly marked for them to avoid. If they can’t monitor their own internet usage, they have their parents and a multitude of internet[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yep, that’s antis alright. 😔
You’re not anyone’s therapist, you are not more educated than the therapists who have said publicly and been harassed for saying that survivors processing their trauma this way is normal and not unhealthy. why do you want to call the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
snowkit-and-blackquill: I love (/s) how proshippers will say that antis are “pro-harassment” or whatever and then actively go into anti tags to harass them. All of my posts abt proshippers are tagged properly, the only way y’all are finding them[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Don’t worry, anon. I’m sure that person would have had an equally out of proportion ‘playing the victim’ reaction to a warning, as they did to a suspension. (re: this post)
Imagine genuinely believing–enough to say out loud– that you believe that cruelty and emotional torture directed at strangers solves problems and should be encouraged. I find it very hard to put myself in those shoes.
dead-pidove-do-not-eat: It’s so funny when antis use the “endorsement” argument, because they really do pick and choose which pieces of fiction “endorses” something and which don’t, based off of their personal comfort level with the themes. If you said that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Two things, screenshop OP: Firstly: when you post your work to a public archive, you do not get to chose who interacts with it except within the bounds of the controls that the archive you upload to extends to you,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Seeing x reader fic that you’re not into sucks, anon, and I’m sorry that you had to block some tags that otherwise you enjoyed. I do want to reassure you though that it’s probable that those fics aren’t malicious, or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
things-antis-say: i think it varies from person to person. i’ve seen a few people who admit to going through every single one of their notifications, and more who throw a tantrum if a proship account likes their post, so?? but[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
molokopilled: wait ok so. whenever alex, a fictional man, who is not incapable of hurting anyone because hes fictional, is brought up in conversation my friend always makes a huge point of how she cant stand him because of how[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“Boundaries for me, not for thee” is largely the anti way.
The nice thing is that occasionally an anti IS confused about what they are doing and WILL listen to someone and re-evaluate themselves when someone talks to them civilly. It doesn’t happen often, and it doesn’t happen with the ones[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The answer to this is much more complicated than the answer with regard to fiction that only involves purely fictional characters. It’s honestly not something I’m generally comfortable discussing, if only because it’s not relevant to me. I’m not a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
LOL are you me? I literally just did that 😂😂😂 I always hope they get more new followers than they lose.
profictionoverhaul: Whenever I have a bad day, this image makes it better. It’s nice knowing the creator of one of the best cannibalism shows (Hannibal) supports proship. He’s even got merch of it too. “It speaks much more about your[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
If antis were curious people who were interested in understanding experiences and perspectives outside of their own, they would not be antis.
They’re bullies, and they’re trying to be as hurtful as possible. They believe that cruelty is a punishment, and that punishment is deserved or even corrective for what they perceive as bad behavior. When antis are hateful and mean to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…