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coockie8: Control is the basis of the entire anti movement tbh I’ve seen several outright admit that they don’t care about children, they just want to be able to control what kind of media is allowed to be created (and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sagegarnish: My favourite sort of antis are the ones that sound like they relate to the antagonists in romance stories who are trying to split up the main couple 😂 Ah yes, “forbidden love”, something that no NORMAL person would[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I wish we could all go back to saying “x is implied to be a y” or “the subtext is that x is a y” instead of “x is y-coded”. The “coded” language is all just button pushing meant to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis who are involved in rpf are so funny for realYou are in the absolute wrong place for that, bro
Exactly. The person whose post we shared is getting absolutely dogpiled and its sad to see. Please, figure out who your friends are!
Once again, antis can’t agree on what does and doesn’t count as proship! I had no idea there were rpf/minecraft antis!
Antis, why do you care so much what sexual thoughts other people are having? Please understand you cannot police other people’s sexual thoughts and feelings without handing ammunition to the authoritarians who want to police all sex. When you police[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
proshippers: “maybe instead of sending hate, we could all just be nice to each other and block people and content we don’t want to see.” antis: “OMG how dare you say my right to tell people who annoy me that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The problem is the majority of antis consider all fandom, regardless of source material, to be ONLY for kids. If you’re an adult they think you’re a weirdo who should get out of fandom. Any fandom. “Go do your taxes.”
imagine spamton and you slandering the proship/ ant anti/ comship tag because both of you know that proshippers suck and you want to slander them so badly Op, what do you think the word ‘slander’ means? Op, what do you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
If you are a person who: Has violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys having violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive thoughts Enjoys fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive characters Creates fiction with violent, abusive, harmful, or destructive chacters And[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: This assertion that antis like to parrot that proshippers “whole lives revolve around” their ships is a fascinating strawman. I feel like antis can’t conceptualize that life occurs offline, and your posting habits aren’t your “whole life”. Maybe[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
This assertion that antis like to parrot that proshippers “whole lives revolve around” their ships is a fascinating strawman. I feel like antis can’t conceptualize that life occurs offline, and your posting habits aren’t your “whole life”. Maybe it’s because[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon, you mean well, you’re broadly correct: the following is meant to spread awareness, not to shame you for not knowing. IQ is an inherently eugenicist and ableist concept and metric that does not help us understand anything valuable about[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
They don’t know what words mean, and they don’t know their history. They exist in a time that has allowed them to feel safe enough in their queerness that they believe they are accepted by their own oppressors. They are[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dailyroastingppl: blackheart-biohazards: dailyroastingppl: “Antis only care abt fictional characters than real victims” If you post disgusting things online like pedophilia, incest or other bs then I think you’re the one who doesnt care about US. No DNI and this is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I think mostly antis hear their conservative, eugenicist parents use the term and then parrot it back without considering the full implications. Yes, they want us all dead. But they don’t understand that they, sweet baby queers that most of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dailyroastingppl: “Antis only care abt fictional characters than real victims” If you post disgusting things online like pedophilia, incest or other bs then I think you’re the one who doesnt care about US. No DNI and this is tagged as[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dagdasgoddess: You are not an “evil” Or “despicable” person for not enjoying wholesome things, or wanting to write dark fiction. Whether that’s for coping reasons, or you just like to write it for the sake of writing.. It’s none of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: Honestly, yeah. I’ve never had someone in modern day ask me why I defend violent video games if I’m not a violent person, because they naturally understand that attacking people just for having hobbies is wrong. When the Catholic[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: Please show me this new mind-blowing evidence that anime characters are real people that can be abused. Calling out real racism and transphobia and abuse and everything, yes, I totally understand, call people out when they do bad things,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yeah I saw this in the Moon Knight fandom. I have also seen antis say this to real-ass plurals like me, that we were in some kind is incestuous relationship for dating in-system. As if in-system relationships aren’t incredibly common
thehellspawnhero: blackheart-biohazards: Yet another anti who actually says out loud that they want to normalize bullying and harassment. Stay classy. Reminder that harassment is not curating your online experience. You curate your online experience by blacklisting tags you dislike, exercising[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Right? Who would have thought that acting like outraged 12 year olds throwing a tantrum wouldn’t get them taken seriously? And i mean they do call us proshitters, so given that they’re anti shitting I guess they’re holding a lot[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
demongender-vibes: blackheart-biohazards: Dear antis: You can’t see into a writer’s mind, and you can’t know the intentions they had when writing something unless they state their intentions directly. When you read something and you feel like it is glamorizing, glorifying,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Unless the drawing was photorealistic, it more than likely was not illegal under US law. I just double checked, and yes, shadman was arrested. For assault with a deadly weapon, not for drawing gross or fucked up cartoons in bad[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Thinking about tropes, and comfort, and self care, and squicks and triggers and blocking this morning, and how different they are for everyone. What’s comforting to one person, might be a squick or trigger to someone else, and vice versa.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Go ahead, tell us antis aren’t parroting conservative christian talking points.
I totally get feeling embarrassed about it. A lot of our opinions about rpf formed when we were 16 in high school and one of the girls in our friend-circle wrote a lot of explicit smut about the band Good[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
im-a-problem-shipper: blackheart-biohazards: Why get into the serious world of political advocacy when what you really want is an excuse to be mean and nasty to people online? So I’m not really that into rpf, so I don’t particularly read it,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Why get into the serious world of political advocacy when what you really want is an excuse to be mean and nasty to people online?
To me this sounds like a case of the reader interpreting the text in a way other than the interpretation that the original author intended. Which is always totally fine. The author is “dead” after all. This is exactly the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Children who deliberately violate their own boundaries and then cry that someone should have stopped them from being able to do so don’t get any sympathy from me. It’s like, do you want agency, or not? Why do you want[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis can’t accept that once something is out in the world, you have no control over how others perceive it or interact with it. Honestly it’s not just antis who act that way though, sometimes.
A few days ago I saw a video on Tiktok of someone saying that Proshippers on Twitter are comparing antis to conservatives for simply being against pedophilia, incest, and abuse. I’m sorry but antis aren’t going around saying that Queer[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“if you are a proshipper I will actively hunt you for sport” What an extremely normal and not at all unhinged thing to say. (sarcasm)
things-antis-say: i’ve seen antis complain that proshippers use “well, what about horror movies?” as their go-to argument, but i haven’t actually seen an anti say why that’s a bad rebuttal if you’re gonna say “no one gets off to murder,”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
No problem, pal. 😾🔪 here, it was my post specifically, so here’s the context. (I’ll try not to ramble). personal irl background: IRL in this lifetime, I/we were raised in a household where our father had significant paranoid delusions, primarily[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: People here in fandom spaces always being like, “Why can’t all the freaks and weirdos just go away!!??” as if history’s most influential literature wasn’t written by the “freaks” and “weirdos” of the world. You think a “normal” “pure”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
moirailegiance: i am anti harassment all the way. i also think that what you enjoy in fiction does not equate to what you enjoy in reality. im going to assume you meant anti harassment, because otherwise this is even more[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: harassment is bad when you’re a borderline p3dophile you don’t deserve mercy or pity Child, you have to pick one. Also, not even ‘pedophiles’. Borderline pedophiles. Methinks you just have a lack of pity and mercy in your[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
harassment is bad when you’re a borderline p3dophile you don’t deserve mercy or pity Child, you have to pick one. Also, not even ‘pedophiles’. Borderline pedophiles. Methinks you just have a lack of pity and mercy in your heart.
pessimisticpurrbeast: and here we go again: i’m working on a comic that has dictatorship and corrupt governments involved and i was ridiculed by some kid in a discord server, desperately trying to tell me that i’m a monster for “glorifying”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
antiproshipping: who even gives a fuck if someone’s “romanticizing” something in fiction? its not fucking real. Its none of your business anyways. “theyre rwomanticizing my trwama 🥺” no theyre romanticing their own trauma. if somebody doesnt even know you, how[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
It’s absolutely spiteful and dismissive; and not far out of step with the other behavior we see out of antis. Basically, if an anti doesn’t like you, your trauma and your identity don’t matter to them, and are free game[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“Pretentious”. You mean we actually type full sentences, use paragraphs and punctuation? And spell check? Also, we’re the boring ones? Ya’ll can’t handle spicy fanfic. To my knowledge, Reddit doesn’t show you things you haven’t interacted with unless you’re on[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
things-antis-say: man, anon, i’m sorry that you’ve been guilting yourself like that 🙁 i know it’s a tough habit to break — i’ve got friends who react like they’ve just touched a hot stove every time i mention rickorty, even[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
antishipping: anon, if you love the content you draw and have fun creating it, then it is NOT a waste of talent! <3 /pos antis will call anything they hate a “waste of talent”. it’s like they see artists as[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
statisticalcats: You know, there’s so much stuff in fiction that being pro-fiction and anti-censorship is about. Explicit sexuality between consenting adults, explicit gory shock horror flicks, drug use, abusive relationships of all kinds, incest, noncon/rape, violence, war, the list goes[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: Waaay too many people on the internet super highway these days will say things like, “You’re literally making child porn!!!” when what they really mean is that you drew fanart of a young-looking anime character.
mywitchcultblr: “SORRY THAT I ACCIDENTALLY RB FROM THAT ARTIST I SWEAR I’M NOT A ( Insert ‘bad’ ship ) SHIPPER! I’M GOOD AND PURE LIKE Y’ALL 😭 *proceeded to sucking the dick of their fellow ‘morally pristine’ mutuals* My reaction:[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dead-dove-fanclub: blackheart-biohazards: Hi, friend. It sounds like you’re really struggling right now, and I’m sorry to hear that. I’m also really sorry to hear that you don’t have friends that you can trust to talk about this with. “Proship” can[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You can be disgusted by something without that thing being immoral or evil. You can be disgusted by something without attacking, insulting, or harassing the people who are doing the thing that disgusts you. Disgust does not determine morality. Attacking[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Hi, friend. It sounds like you’re really struggling right now, and I’m sorry to hear that. I’m also really sorry to hear that you don’t have friends that you can trust to talk about this with. “Proship” can be a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: olderthannetfic: – Ahahahaha LMAO see through what? When we say “write whatever, just treat real people with respect” what the fuck do antis think we’re trying to say?? They think proshippers are some kind of front for Big Pedophile,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
By “stop this cycle of abuse” you mean stop bullying and harassing people over their fiction and art, right? Right? Oh that’s not what you meant??
noa-ciharu: One thing I’ll never understand is antis and purity police in fandoms that have very dark and ‘problematic’ themes in canon “I can’t believe people ship 10 years age gap relationship between boss and his secretary, way to romanticize[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
That’s a hell of an imposing strawman you’ve got right there. Gonna bring him to life with some magic powder?
im-a-pro-at-shipping: antishipping: anti-anti-survivor: shinelikethunder: itsbuckybitch: I’ve had a bee in my bonnet since this incident the other day, and I figure it’s probably time to get it out of my system. Darkfic is not a new phenomenon. It’s as old[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Don’t suicide bait people, I don’t care who they are. Don’t suicide bait people. Get out of the proship tag with your suicide bait posts. NEVER TELL SOMEONE SUICIDE IS THE ANSWER WHAT IS WRONG WITH YOU.
lavender-devil: When has art ever been non problematic? What’s the point of art if not to be controversial? Yeah, it’s great to have fun and be light hearted- to capture beauty in art. But what about the darker parts of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
profic-miku: honestly im worried that proshippers are starting to act more and more like antis… with the whole harassing antis and accusing them of horrible shit stuff Seriously. Do. Not. Harass people. Do not accuse them of crimes for no[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Dear antis: You can’t see into a writer’s mind, and you can’t know the intentions they had when writing something unless they state their intentions directly. When you read something and you feel like it is glamorizing, glorifying, or promoting[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
chaos-event-horizon: scientistservant: I’m not gonna check every single blog on this hellsite to see whether or not I’m allowed to reblog something of theirs asgjgfgefd Toshinori: It takes less clicks to block than it does to send a fucking message.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
queensnail06: I do hate fandom sometimes because I’m always scared of liking the wrong thing and getting harassed or having the wrong headcanon. If I like something with flaws it makes me bad and icky. This is so sad to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Love seeing blogs yelling and screaming about how much they hate proshippers, and then I look at their blogs and 99% of the content is the same stuff my proship mutuals are reblogging 🤣🤣🤣
The funniest (and worst) thing I have seen is antis who write fiction involving sexual assault, but claim that its fine for them to write, but its bad for anyone who calls themselves proship to write because proshippers “romanticize” it.
sl-ug: blackheart-biohazards: expertsnailholder: Probably opening a can of worms, but what IS proship…? From what I’ve seen it’s just Shipping characters or being attracted to characters no matter if it’s pedo, incest, abusive, racist, etc and being in favor of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
expertsnailholder: Probably opening a can of worms, but what IS proship…? From what I’ve seen it’s just Shipping characters or being attracted to characters no matter if it’s pedo, incest, abusive, racist, etc and being in favor of those things[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: What the fuck did I just say. Dude, AO3 already keeps CSEM out of its database. It’s not allowed. What more do you want? Did you even read my post? What special property does underage fiction have that violent[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dead-pidove-do-not-eat: blackheart-biohazards: offul-83: blackheart-biohazards: offul-83: blackheart-biohazards: offul-83: Idk how to begin this but here we go! The reason why I think people participate it proshipping mainly isn’t for coping (at least mostly). I think the real reason why people do[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Turn off reblogs or include a DNI banner if you don’t want your posts escaping containment. Expecting someone to check the blog of every post they see cross their dash before they reblog it is an unreasonable expectation on social[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Proship Misconceptions 🚫 Misconception: A “proship” is a ship that involves problematic content. 👍 Reality: Proship means supporting the rights of people to ship what they want. “Proship” is a label for the person doing the shipping, not for a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
opabiniawillreturn: blackheart-biohazards: And yet when you point this out to them they get SO MAD. If you don’t want people to group you with terfs, religious puritans, and fascists, don’t parrot their talking points. did you know that agreeing with[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
hypernovainhale: I hate how the “purity culture” tag is polluted with proshippers complaining about people not liking their stories filled with incest and rape. Purity culture isn’t just “I’m disgusted by NSFW content”. Purity culture goes far back, far before[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Entitled people often seem to feel the right to demand that others produce content and works of art that conform to their personal desires.
And yet when you point this out to them they get SO MAD. If you don’t want people to group you with terfs, religious puritans, and fascists, don’t parrot their talking points.
If i write something violent, and someone unrelated to me reads my fiction, and then goes and violently assaults someone, that’s not my fault or responsibility. If I write something sexual, and someone unrelated to me reads my fiction and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Hey look, combination terf and anti blocklist!
offul-83: blackheart-biohazards: offul-83: blackheart-biohazards: offul-83: Idk how to begin this but here we go! The reason why I think people participate it proshipping mainly isn’t for coping (at least mostly). I think the real reason why people do it is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
offul-83: blackheart-biohazards: offul-83: Idk how to begin this but here we go! The reason why I think people participate it proshipping mainly isn’t for coping (at least mostly). I think the real reason why people do it is the thrill[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
offul-83: Idk how to begin this but here we go! The reason why I think people participate it proshipping mainly isn’t for coping (at least mostly). I think the real reason why people do it is the thrill they get[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Consuming fiction is not okay, but violently assaulting people is right and good, according to anti rhetoric.
Hey anon, it’s Harry. Thanks for sharing this with me. Honestly I can relate, personally, because I also prefer to write my own fucked up ships as sweet and happy. I enjoy a lot of shipcest, and I am ONLY[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I can say “hey maybe you shouldn’t accuse people who write fiction of promoting incest or pedophilia because making serious and harmful accusations equating fiction to real crime waters down the perceived severity of actual abuse” and antis will disagree[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sidmjkgc: No. You know what’s really problematic though? Antis’ obsession towards kids and molesting kids. You should really do something about it.
ghost-shipping: Any time you are confused as to why antis tend to be harsh, unforgiving, make huge leaps in logic, constantly allude to being personally threatened, etc…please remember than the majority of anti’s are fairly young americans who feel a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Slenderman got memed to death years ago, so it’s easy to see him as just the internet version of bigfoot. I don’t blame you for never thinking about it! But Slenderman was always a predator of children. A child predator.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
trueishcolours: blackheart-biohazards: Yes, its absolutely true. It also makes it harder or impossible for people who are triggered by those things to create strong filters online to keep from seeing them. If you’re talking about rape, and you write it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
waycesticles: all im saying is that antis will happily make proship bait accounts, but not terf bait accounts, or republican bait accounts, or transmed bait accounts, or MAP/zoo bait accounts, or… like huh. maybe if you actually thought we were[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Knowing that we were able to help somebody see this means a lot, anon. Thank you for reaching out to us. It helped a lot to read it today
Toko and Jack promised some evidence that Slenderman was associated with pedophilia during his origins. Here’s some old web discussions that imply that Slenderman’s love of children is less than wholesome. As a bonus, here’s something you won’t like. Accusations[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…