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The Slenderman fetishist trying to preach to me about how some fiction is always bad wrong and my trauma is not as bad as others. Newsflash: Slenderman was created on something awful as a PEDOPHILE CHILD MURDERER. that’s his origin!!
blackheart-biohazards: “motherhood and pregnancy aren’t comparable to drawn pedophilia or rape or incest, though, are they? @eerie-entityy do you realize that what you have just said is that you think that some people’s trauma and triggers are not as important[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“motherhood and pregnancy aren’t comparable to drawn pedophilia or rape or incest, though, are they? @eerie-entityy do you realize that what you have just said is that you think that some people’s trauma and triggers are not as important as[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
gorgeousgreymatter-x: man if some of you are as traumatized by fanfiction as you claim to be, the public library must be the stuff of nightmares for you
dagdasgoddess: just-antishipper-things: You are free to do whatever you want in fandom! As long as it doesn’t go against any of my personal preferences. Gee sure reminds me of the self ship community.. “YES! FUCK CRINGE CULTURE!!11 SHIP YOURSELF WITH[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
boyswillbeboxes: One of the unfortunate consequences of anti bullshit I’ve noticed is a wave of original fiction that is so afraid to take any kind of risks lest they be deemed “problematic” that every character feels extremely flat and boring[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
demongender-vibes: blackheart-biohazards: “like the Lord intended” These motherfuckers aren’t even pretending it’s not about religious purity. They straight up want to censor content that goes against their faith. i wouldn’t be shocked at this point. there’s even antis now calling[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I mean you’re not wrong, it coulda been triggering to anybody who saw it, too. Funny how its often antis who post shit untagged and unwarned, huh?
king-of-general-disarray: sekkyoshi: incestuous and pedophilic ships aren’t cool! — This is so fucking funny HJNFMDS
Eh, SOMETIMES bait warrants a response if you’ve got a good one locked and loaded. They were pretty obviously trolling, but I wanted to take the time to spread the word. –Chris
Just because someone ships something doesn’t mean they believe that that relationship is healthy, ideal, desirable, or sustainable. People can ship things just because they’re interesting. Shipping something doesn’t mean you think its good or right. People don’t owe you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
What is triggering content? We talk a lot about how antis don’t seem to understand that the things that make them upset are comforting to some people, and the things that are comforting to them are upsetting and traumatic to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“like the Lord intended” These motherfuckers aren’t even pretending it’s not about religious purity. They straight up want to censor content that goes against their faith.
Yes, its absolutely true. It also makes it harder or impossible for people who are triggered by those things to create strong filters online to keep from seeing them. If you’re talking about rape, and you write it r*pe, then[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sl-ug: queerregulusablack: olderthannetfic: – No. AO3 follows US law. This is part of the problem with people using buzzwords for shit. Underage smut in fanfic is not child pornography. Those who describe it as such are muddying what actually is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Woke up to this message this morning and all I have to say is this: Kill me yourself anon. Pin me down between your knees and choke me until I stop twitching. Run a blade across my throat and tear[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
proshipping-kitten: I wonder if the antis who believe that anyone over 25 should be off raising children and not in fandom are scared Do they fear a future where they will have to abandon all their interests and ‘grow up’?[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
cleverinternetkingdom: The rules hasn’t changed, it had “Illustrated, computer-generated or other forms of REALISTIC depictions of a human child” The amount of 🐜 that can’t read is baffling. All replies from 🐜s were “Twitter W”, “Elon finally got things right”,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
coockie8: Referring to people who happen to ship something you personally don’t (especially a ship between two fully adult, unrelated characters, but also really just any ship) as “sick freaks” in your tags is an excellent way to catch yourself[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
izzymeadows: warlock-with-a-spear: I’m so happy to see people are finally speaking out against the bullying in the fandom. The worst part of it are the unfounded accusations that people are supposedly pedophiles for just writing fanfiction (even if characters are[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: “If proshippers don’t even like problematic content, then why would they defend it so much???” um, because it’s bad to limit freedom of expression? Haven’t you ever heard, “I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
wander-wren: it’s 5am i have not slept i have a hot take i see antis argue sometimes that you CAN portray “problematic” things in fiction, as long as you show they’re bad/don’t romanticize them. first of all that’s super suggestive.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Not so heartbreaking: blog you didn’t care about and posts no original content is an anti
marshemillow: king-of-general-disarray: lolipop-steve: lolipop-steve: Oh yeah, I just wanted to say that a child dating a person much older than them “once they turn 18” is grooming. This isn’t me misusing terms, that’s literally one way grooming happens You have[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
hehimgirl: Y’all, I finally found someone who had “freaks” in their DNI. That was the entire DNI: freaks and bigots. That’s worse than “basic DNI criteria.” Who exactly is a freak, according to this person? Do they mean queer people in general? Pro-shippers?[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Right?! And antis will reblog shit without even looking but then fly off the handle if you reblog one of their untagged posts. If that person saw my imagine in the self ship tags then they should have seen it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
paperplatementality: I swear people put “proshippers dni” in the most random things “Look at how cute my cat is! PROSHIPPERS DNI” “Look at my art that only includes one character and has nothing to do with shipping at all! PROSHIPPERS[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
proship-luigi: Antis: “Seeing triggering media can scar a person so badly they never, ever go on the internet again! You’ve robbed them of their only coping mechanism! You should feel awful for making somebody not want to come online any[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
ATTN antis: No one cares that you hate proshippers. Your posts about how much you hate people with disgusting icky ships that are badwrong are entirely performative. Oh! Look how moral and pure you are! Oh! hating people over fiction[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
iholli: “oh no half the Rise team made tcest art” so has every other creative team for the franchise. So has every creative team for every piece of media ever (they just haven’t let you see it). It’s not that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
just-antithings: oh they’ve been doing that for a while No need to be “anti harassment” when you consider harassing people a perfectly justified and moral course of action, and assume that others do too. (Which is screwed up)
It could be an angry proshipper but the fact that it’s got literally 3 posts on the brand new blog, and decided to make one of those three posts encouraging harassment makes me feel like it’s just plain bait.
Digging further into the latest drama– the “"proshipper”“ we’ve all been clowning on for encouraging harassment appears to be a troll/bait account. So basically it’s antis or other shit stirrers trying to bait proshippers into behaving like assholes. Pretty funny[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Just got an extremely nasty “fake friendly” message from a terf in our inbox, about how terfs are supposedly superior proshippers and how trans people are inferior and disgusting. This anon used extremely gross and abusive language, and I won’t[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
theparadiseislandsys: normalize treating antishippers the same way they treat us because they have no human decency so why should we? 🥴 Every other proshipper to you right now, op.
Oof the discourse and infighting is hot and heavy tonight, I see. C’mon. Don’t tell people to kill themselves. Don’t threaten or harass people. It makes you no better than them. Write some angry violent vent fic and get it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
soberscientistlife: ~Stephen King
We’re not a huge fan of it, but we wouldn’t unfollow somebody over it, or blame them for it. A death threat message is targeted violence against the person it’s sent to. I can’t blame someone for responding violently against[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I gotta agree. If we agree that antis shouldn’t be making “jokes” about violence against proshippers, then there’s no way in hell we can be okay with jokes about violence against antis without being massive fucking hypocrites.
antishipping: blackheart-biohazards: things-antis-say: We get so frustrated when we see posts like this from proshippers. The whole POINT is that NOBODY deserves to be bullied or harassed. by like, 80% of proshipper standards, harassing or suicide-baiting antis literally defeats the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
things-antis-say: We get so frustrated when we see posts like this from proshippers. The whole POINT is that NOBODY deserves to be bullied or harassed.
Please remember: ♦ No person is sole arbiter of what is or isn’t disgusting, upsetting, triggering, or immoral. ♦ What you feel is wholesome and comforting can be disgusting, upsetting, triggering, or immoral to another person. ♦ There is no[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
just-antithings: I don’t really see a problem with it so long as it has appropriate warnings and/or tags. if people don’t want to see that content they can filter it out
100%, anon. The presence of vocal antis does nothing but make fandom worse and more difficult to participate in for everyone, even people who don’t consider themselves proship.
antishipping: WHAT THE FUCK. TELL ME THIS IS A FCKING JOKE, THERE’S NO FUCKING WAY YUO THINK “FANPOL” IS A RCAIST TERM, I’M BAWLNIG MY FUCKIGN EYES OUT 😭 This has got to be a “joke”; and by joke I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dead-pidove-do-not-eat: Yeah consuming/creating dark fictional content can be a great coping mechanism. But I don’t really like it, when people say you NEED to be a survivor in order to be able to enjoy these things in fiction. I do[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
memorizingthedigitsofpi: You’ve got a lot going on in this ask, anon, and it’s obviously not asked in good faith. If I were a smarter human being, I’d delete it and move on with my life, but it’s 9am on a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
just-antithings: This last line summarize why there is no difference between antis and anti-vaccine/flatearthers. The difference between actual science and pseudo science it the opportunity to disprove your hypothesis. When you show proof to flatearthers or anti-vaccine, they tell you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
plague-of-insomnia: blackheart-biohazards: Tags are for organizational purposes. Tags are not communities. If people don’t tag their problematic content with the main fandom tags, then it not only becomes unsearchable, it also becomes unfilterable. What if I hate undertale, and I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
People need to understand competing access needs. Its perfectly normal for some people to want to avoid fictional material related to things that oppress or traumatize them, and perfectly normal for some traumatized or oppressed people to want to seek[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
lovedeatheren: The real losers are dumb cunts like you that care this much about fictional characters & stories😭 If proship/ profic is oh sooooo disgusting, then why the fuck are u even on my blog in the first place?🤔 Huh.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
It’s definitely not too much to ask, anon. It sucks when people treat sexual practices that they aren’t personally into as being objectively disgusting. People need to realize that no everyone shares their views, and just because you aren’t into[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Our take is that it’s rude, but also fine. You are under no obligation to be nice to someone who is being an asshole to you.
antishipping: I feel you anon. it’s very scary. you can literally just simply say “i’m proship” without even mentioning that you have problematic ships, support kodocon/rpf, are a pedophile, etc. and that alone is enough by anti standards to put[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
@things-antis-say thought you might want to see this dumb bs.
Just antis constantly policing and judging their friends.
asterosian: Y’all do know that proshippers can tell you’re not proship when you call certain ships “proships”, right? Cause like, pretending to be a proshipper to try to worm your way into the community for receipt-gathering purposes… requires you to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sl-ug: No your absolutely right about this. W take anon
My taste is immaculate. <3 Get better social skills. 💋
Exactly! Tags are a filing system, they are not a private, moderated space. If something is not banned from tumblr, then it is okay to put in any relevant tag.
sl-ug: Well fist of all, there’s no such thing as proship content, just content that would be considered taboo. And even then, taboo/dark fiction is going to have a different definition depending on who you ask. But as for what[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Tags are for organizational purposes. Tags are not communities. If people don’t tag their problematic content with the main fandom tags, then it not only becomes unsearchable, it also becomes unfilterable. What if I hate undertale, and I don’t want[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis will look for ANY reason why its “okay” to bully someone they have a problem with.
sl-ug: People are so “morally superior” (/sar) for not taking a side that it’s actually making them look more morally ignorant than anything else. You can’t just “not take a side” when someone does something bad to the other side[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
antis are always like “well we wouldnt care if you didnt promote it”and im half tempted to go “show me a post by a proshipper that EXPLICITLY SAYS “pedophillia in real life is good”. go on. oh wait you cant cause it hasnt happened”i do see a shit ton of antis promoting abuse by STALKING, HARASSMENT, DOXXING, VICTIM BLAMING, AND SUIBAITING.not so much of proshippers promoting actual real life bad things.-Joey from @antiproshipping
Its another antiship strawman argument. They invent proshipper boogeymen that aren’t real, to fight against.
noa-ciharu: Idk how in year 2022 “what you like in fiction doesn’t reflect your morals, what you like irl and life goals” is considered a hot take
The problem is that antis don’t see harassing people as morally wrong. They see hurting proshippers as enacting righteous punishment upon them for the crime of having bad thoughts and creating art that inspires bad thoughts in others.
Absolutely agree, anon. It’s genuinely a shame when people are made to feel guilty over fiction.
valarhalla: aqueerkettleofish: tatiletotesamaze: susiephone: the-truth-within-the-lie: austrohungarianwriteblr: some puzzling writing hot takes i’ve encountered: genre fiction is fascist. the only ideologically pure fiction is slice-of-life with no plot. any book with more than one sex scene is erotica romance novels encourage[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
elfwreck: kink-tomato: This zine, and I cannot over emphasize how funny this is, is for Anne Rice’s Interview with the Vampire “Proship content”… errr… there will be no romance in this zine; it’s all genfic? Ahh no of course not;[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
cookie-crimes: Alright, I’ll answer in good faith here, because i really appreciate not picking a fight or an argument First off, please, don’t say , “you like proships” proship doesn’t mean “problematic ships”, it means “pro” (as in favor of)[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
things-antis-say: ok, i wasn’t gonna talk about this post, but i am bored and feel like arguing, so *rubs hands together* let’s do this i forget which post, exactly, these comments were on, because it was a week ago (i[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
cleverinternetkingdom: I just can’t imagine seeing a interacting like Person A: You vile, disgusting, freak. I hope you get killed or just killed yourself it would save time. Stop wasting air. Person B: Wtf, don’t say things like that. And[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Let’s continue today’s theme of antis not agreeing what counts as proship. I like (hate) that this anti has decided that a voice actors twitter handle makes something ‘canon’.
Just some more antis not agreeing what proship is, and eating their own. Seems like it must be the day for it.
valkylander: proudfreakselfshipper: blackheart-biohazards: LOL what was I *just* saying? Half the antis out there are shocked that the other half considers them filthy proships. Antis you can say dni without putting other words before jsjsjsjs Every time I remember that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
LOL what was I *just* saying? Half the antis out there are shocked that the other half considers them filthy proships.
This is actually a really fun topic because about half of the antis out there ARE against anything explicitly sexual, horny, kinky etc, and half of the antis are shocked to find out that these other antis exist. Of course,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
the-final-sif: “Antis’ foundation is the belief that fiction affects reality, in that any problematic behaviors or topics in media, fictitious or not, will cause people to normalize those behaviors, resulting in people (specifically minors) thinking that such actions are acceptable[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Sadly, most antis aren’t really looking to protect anyone. They’re looking for an ‘acceptable target’ to bully and harass that they don’t ave to feel bad about being mean too. And they’ve been told by society that accusing someone of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
proficmushroom: I think there’s something to be said about how users treat people making blazed posts they don’t like. In the past week alone I’ve seen people telling women to kill themselves for posting cosplay selfies and someone saying they[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
king-of-general-disarray: Listen- I couldn’t give two shits if someone doesn’t want to call themselves proship even if they fit the definition. Like fine, whatever, it doesn’t actually matter, but stop being like “I’m not proship but [basic definition of proship]”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
anonyrant: “little kids might see NSFW of minor x adult and think its ok and normal” Why are little kids searching for NSFW? Where are their parents? No one on the internet is responsible for them, not sorry. Its one[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
proficmushroom: Anti: *endangers someone’s wellbeing* Proshippers: what the fuck. Some rando out of nowhere: WOA WOA WOA BOTH SIDES NEED TO CALM DOWN THIS DISCOURSE HAS GONE *TOO FAR*
babycrypt: mental maturity is realizing i can personally be very uncomfortable with proshipping and think its hella gross without making it a morality thing. its not morally bad its just smth i want to keep a bajillion feet away from[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
king-of-general-disarray: Please tell me why I saw an anti-fujoshi proshipper. Please tell me how that makes sense. pretty sure the problem is that people do not understand the meaning or origin of words. It’s a shame.
things-antis-say: blackheart-biohazards: anendoandfriendo: blackheart-biohazards: things-antis-say: anti endos and antishippers overlap pretty heavily (and I’m embarrassed on every homestuck fictive’s behalf V_V) Oh god yeah. Like, speaking from personal experience it’s not even so much that as it is that pro-endo[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
anendoandfriendo: blackheart-biohazards: things-antis-say: anti endos and antishippers overlap pretty heavily (and I’m embarrassed on every homestuck fictive’s behalf V_V) Oh god yeah. Like, speaking from personal experience it’s not even so much that as it is that pro-endo antis also[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
antishipping: but seriously though, i really hate those types of anti “comebacks” that are just like “well you support child abuse, so your opinion doesn’t count” “you literally think incest is valid, shut the fuck up” “at least i don’t[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Honestly, in my opinion its valid to dislike someone for any reason. Disliking someone is just an opinion, what matters is how you actually treat someone. Its totally okay to make a generalized assessment about someone because of the ideas[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Meanwhile, our internet was completely unmonitored our whole childhood. I was looking at dirty fanart of Jesse and James from team rocket on geocities pages. I wish antis could understand that it is okay and normal for them to curate[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
antishipping: about a little over two weeks ago, I had an anti dm me which lead down the path of arguing, and they accused me of making problematic shipping “my entire personality”. I told them that I actually had very[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
badmrkitty: The more I run this blog, the less hope I have of ever having productive conversations with antis due to how often they operate under completely different definitions. legal terms have been twisted over this discourse, and they don’t[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The reading comprehension is non-existent. Apparently acknowledging that something is not illegal is the same as supporting it.
proship-hibiki: mfw antis continue to cite the law that was struck down nearly two decades ago. @blackheart-biohazards Not only that but even if it was not struck down it says VISUAL REPRESENTATION right there!! It means pictures, not text fiction!