We are realizing more and more than antis have no concept of people who think and believe in a way other than the way they think and believe. Antis seem to believe that there is only one category of people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Posts Tagged anti harassment
Fancops seem to believe that “all things that are illegal are bad.” and “all things that are bad are illegal.” Which is just like, really fascinating to me. Like, what a thing to believe.
On Tuesday, May 29, 2007, LJers – users of the then-popular blogging site Livejournal – woke up to find that their Friends lists were showing a large number of names that had been crossed out, or strikethrough ‘ed. It turned[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Fancops: Don’t respect anyone who disagrees with them feel empowered to use hateful language on anyone who disagrees with them use words like “racist” and “transphobe” not caring about their actual meaning, but as ways to paint a target for[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Except sometimes they DO call law enforcement! and the law enforcement says: stop sending us stuff about fiction, it takes our resources away from investigating actual real crime.
Take a look at this person who is saying the quiet part out loud. It’s not that they think proshippers cause harm, it’s that they’re weird. Not only does this person think that being weird is bad, they think you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
β€οΈβπ₯ There is nothing special and bad about sex in fiction. β€οΈβπ₯ Abusive, ‘nasty’, illegal, or taboo sex in fiction isn’t any worse than anything else bad in fiction. β€οΈβπ₯Reading or writing about a type of sex in fiction will[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Watching fancops police each other is the saddest thing.
Yup. But it’s not about protection. It’s about ship wars. The morality is just a tool to bully people out of making ship content for anything that isn’t their ship.
And how about “if you think it’s illegal, don’t share it with people!”
π Thank you to all shippers in fandom who spread kindness and joy! π Thank you to all shippers in fandom who spend their time celebrating the things they love! π Thank you to all shippers in fandom who create[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
So you want parents to be involved with their child’s sex lives? Is that what you’re saying? A parent trying to make certain that their child’s porn and sexual habits align with their own actually sounds like grooming to me.
So like, you live in America, and in America it is specifically NOT illegal to draw child characters in sexual situations. (If you were in Canada you’d be on shakier legal ground.) Also like, are you cool siccing the cops[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
@/massreportingproshippers A) acknowledges that characters are not real people B) bullies self shippers
Proshippers: You are amazing. Thank you for adding your creativity and kindness to fandom!
Fancops really don’t understand what we’re doing here. So it’s impossible for them to figure out how they should present themselves. It’s really funny when it’s not just frustrating.
Hi, anon. I understand that you’re going through a lot right now. The world is unfair, and it feels like there is very little in your life that you can actually control. I understand that lashing out, and saying cruel[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Just a reminder: β¦ Any content that is not against Tumblr’s TOS is allowed in the ‘main tag’ of a relevant fandom. β¦ It is not your duty or right to police the content of tumblr’s tags beyond what breaks[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“Proship” means you don’t believe people should be harassed, threatened or insulted for the fiction and art they create, even if you personally find what they’re making to be gross, upsetting or in some way immoral. “Proship” means you believe[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
We got kicked out of a pathologic discord for sharing art of two sibling characters that somebody decided “looked shippy” and whipped up a witch hunt. So , I feel you anon. It sucks when intolerant people make spaces narrower[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I want every person involved in the debate about proship/antiship, censorship of fiction, harassment, art by traumatized and mentally ill people and what art constitutes “pedo shit” to please: watch this documentary about Henry Darger, or at least read up[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
catboy-syrup: I just found out two of my friends are antis. I legit told them my friend and I was getting harrassed on our shared other blog over fiction and they went “Well sometimes it’s ok, it depending on what[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Absolutely, and also it’s just an asshole move to mock people for liking things with intensity. [Photo ID: A political cartoon that has been edited. It takes place at a climate summit and someone at a podium has his hand[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
β¦οΈ If you wrote a piece of fiction… β¦οΈ If you wrote some lines of poetry or a song… β¦οΈ If you painted, drew, or doodled something… β¦οΈ If you edited pieces of something else preexisting in a way that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
olderthannetfic: – What is there to get? They’re idiots and they’re all talk. They don’t have any real analytical understanding of their own philosophies, so there’s no internal consistency.
What antis see when I’m shipping characters with a 10 year age gap:
Fancops are always implicitly saying, “I, an upstanding and moral person enjoy this pornography and violence on a purely intellectual level, while I am positive you, a filthy degenerate, are getting off to it.” *context note: this post is discussing[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I think that fancops wrestle with feelings of shame a lot. One might suppose that one reason they harass proshippers is because we represent a lack of the shame they feel for their own urges.
Oh hey here are those Diabolik Lovers antis we were talking about last night. More fancop hypocrisy and antiships eating their own.
Some people try to force the world around them to adapt to what they want, rather than adapting themselves to the world as it exists. I’m the same way as you, anon. There are plenty of mutuals we have that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
There was a post we thought we reblogged the other day, about how some people just “memorize a rule” rather than understanding why that rule exists. Most fancops are 100% that type of people. No critical thinking skills.
Proship is a fandom term that means you don’t believe in harassing people who write fiction or create artwork that you don’t agree with. Basically “ship and let ship” and “don’t like, don’t read.” While this seems obvious to most[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
That’s so fascinating, anon. It’s so strange when antis get attached to media that should by rights be the exact kind of thing they’re so stubbornly against. I hesitate to say it, but maybe they bully proshippers because they’re wrestling[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Don’t you think this is a strange and uncomfortable– even rude– question to ask someone out of the blue, anon? Why are you speculating about the kind of pornography we write? I’m feeling a bit sexually harassed.
π It’s okay to make bad art. π It’s okay to make art in bad taste. π You have a right to make art that others consider to be of poor quality. π You have a right to make art[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
We’ve lived through the worst of it. We had Something Awful threads and Encyclopedia Dramatica articles, etc, about us back in the day. We try to treat fancops, harassers and trolls online like we would any real world terrorist or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Fancops fall into two categories: Hypocrites who don’t realize that what they’re saying is that bad things in fiction influence people, but modeling back actions in reality doesn’t influence people. and Terrorists, who actively endorse violence and believe that it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Not to be all relating fandom stuff to historical events, but it really reminds me of the little girls who started the Salem witch trials. And thank you, we hope you have a nice day too! <3
Always happy to help people yell on anon! And as far as this person goes… Proship just means anyone they don’t like, at this point. Alternatively the charitable interpertation would be that they’re secretly proship and have “proships dni” on[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Fancops want to judge other people’s trauma without hearing about it first. Presumed guilty.
“I think it will be an interesting idea to explore” And “I think it will be fun” Are both always good enough reasons to justify creating or engaging with any art or fiction!
Optimistically, I think it’s shrinking. I feel like we’re getting less hate and seeing less anti garbage in the tags than even a few months ago.
Honestly just blocking them on sight is the pro strat for people who don’t wanna get dragged into B’s and just vibe. More power to you anon. π
You are 100% right, anon, fancops need to convert others is extremely evangelical.
Oh 100% anon. Fancops have a really distorted impression of what normal is and how they are viewed with regard to it. Context link
Sounds like typical anti behavior, autism or no.
Turn off anons, and turn off or delete comments. Make yourself boring and unavailable to them until they get bored and go bother somebody else, unfortunately. Or if you want to fight back: You could also screencap their nasty messages[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
For sure. No one would have felt safe enough to make edgy volcaloid songs and we would be missing out.
Yeah. That’s what is hard to remember. That all of this endless moralizing started not out of concern, but out of a desire to win at ship wars. And then cultural moral panic by conservatives fanned the flames and added[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“I’ve had enough of idiots in this fandom trying to force other characters into Cecil and Carlos’a relationship.” “I would say a mean word right now that starts with the letter r (…)” This post is an excellent reminder that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Pro as in professional. [Image ID: a short looping gif of queer transsexual icon Divine in the John Waters movie Bad Taste. Divine is proudly declaring “Filth is my life!” End image ID.] Serious answer: I am pro-minding my own[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Reminder: β£οΈ It’s okay to create for any idea, ship, fandom etc you want to. The only limit is your imagination. β£οΈ Don’t worry about the people who might hate your work, create what moves and interests you. β£οΈ You[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
That’s a fair approach, anon. I hope it helps with your anxiety and you don’t get shit for it.
100%, anon. Fancops eat their own constantly. We’ve seen it time and time again. No matter how big an anti you think you are, there’s always the chance that some other anti will find you “problematic” and call you a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I think it would be nice to stop using emotionally charged and/or eugenics based language to describe things, especially fiction, you find icky! Forget: degenerate, filthy, disgusting etc bring back calling things what they are: “In poor taste”.
context link for first part of this discussion. Here’s the thing, anon, you and I disagree in a pretty fundamental way. First I’ll address what you say about censorship. You specifically mention: “steam is chock full of disgusting games like[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
fancops parroting rules and words as ‘good’, rather than demonstrating actions that are good? Never!! (intense sarcasm)
More fancops dividing people into “good survivors” and “bad survivors.” You guys (fancops) really don’t understand how bad that is, do you? Like, why it’s messed up to police survivors based on how comfortable or uncomfortable their reaction to their[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Honestly, thanks for yelling, and I’m glad you feel comfortable to yell here. This kind of shit is exactly what fancops are missing when they try to shut down and censor fiction, assuming that they know why and by whom[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Well, anon, you had me in the first half, thatβs for sure. I agree with you about blocking and ignoring people you donβt like. But hereβs where you get it wrong. but at the same time, depicting certain topics in[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
π Creating or consuming fiction does not lead to taking action in the real world. π Consuming fiction about things that are against your morals does not change your firmly held morals. π Creating or enjoying fiction about immoral, taboo[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yeah, we’ve seen people go through that shit unfortunately. One of the first things we saw in the community when we started posting a year ago was some poor unfortunate 18 year old getting harassed by their anti friends for[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Fuck of I know! Could be any of ‘em. Let’s take minute to give a cheer for all the proship stimboard accounts out there doing the good work. πππ Context link
Wouldn’t it be amazing if such a mythical and sought after option existed???
“I hate proshippers, and I’m going to use the main tags just to antagonize them and then play the victim when they respond.”
[Image: a commonly used ‘meme’ gif of a black woman gesturing while saying: “you know what that is? Growth.”]
Yeah, the hypocrisy and lack of self evaluation from fanpol is wild.
It’s frustrating to see the same kind of emotionally charged rhetoric, community policing, arguments from disgust, and appeals to authority and tradition that lead to fascism and genocide… And it’s a bunch of 14 year olds arguing about which Barbie[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Proship community: Thinks you should write or draw anything that you want to. Discourages harassment and threats against any person, calls out and rejects community members who engage in harassment behavior. Focused positively; share and comment on works and opinions[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
????????? ?????? ??????? So what are they getting out of imagining eating people or being eaten? And why is it okay for them to imagine eating based violence but not okay for someone else to imagine sex based violence???
Yeah it’s one of our pet peeves too. First, fictives are not a monolith and lots of us are proship. Second, the existence of fictives does not impact in any way how people are allowed to use characters in fiction[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I feel like my brain is going to leak out my ear. Sexual fantasies about eating people are just pretend??? But sexual fantasies about shipcest or underage characters are bad??? Make it make sense!
The sexual cannibal hates proshippers. Irony is dead.
Shockingly enough: Being a pedophile is not actually a crime “condoning” pedophilia is not a crime pedophilia is not a synonym for child molestation, rape, or sexual assault. proshipper means fiction only; the term proship does not in any way[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Fancops think of blocking someone as a punishment on the person who they are blocking. That’s why they act like they’re being aggressed on when they find out someone has blocked them. They don’t relate to blocking someone as a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
If being against against censorship and the harassment of people who create and enjoy fiction– no matter what content that fiction contains– means that I am “defending pedophiles” in the eyes of fancops, then I will sit here and “defend[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Fancops will Equate reading and writing fiction with committing crimes Sexualize the reading habits of total strangers Write out violent and hateful threats against people they don’t know And wonder why people hate them so much.
Sometimes the specific way some fancops talk about “proships DNI” exits the realm of sounding like enforcing a social boundary, and enters the realm of sounding like a child on the playground screaming: “EWWW!! EWW!! COOTIES!! DONT TOUCH ME THEYVE[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“Ship and let ship” (aka proship) is an inherently more ethical and moral stance regarding fiction than harassment and censorship (aka antiship).
Antis don’t understand that fictional characters are not real, they are just a personality and a performance. Its totally normally to be attracted to the personality and performance of a character, even when that character is presented as a “"child”“[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
β fancops are thought police.
The fatphobia and anti-masculinity strike again. V_V Not to mention the pedo panic.
We are so glad that we’ve inspired you, anon, and made you feel safer to share your creations. We don’t care what people are creating, we just want everybody to be able to create and share what they want to,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
every fancop who spreads the lie that “proshippers are pedophiles” and that written fiction is “child porn” owes me $5 per incident.
I wanna thank every shipper in fandom who: is kind to others in fandom even when they disagree blocks or filters content that upsets them doesn’t threaten or harass people who make content they don’t like spends their time making[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Tell me you’ve swallowed the terf and conservative anti-porn rhetoric, without telling me (or knowing yourself) that you’ve swallowed the terf and conservative anti porn rhetoric.
“How would you feel if you were a fictional character and someone shipped you with a family member?” “How would you feel if your mom had aborted you as a fetus?” If these two stupid thought experiments sound the same[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Tag Ship Ask game Tag Ship: a ship between a child character and a teenage character πΒ Are you in any fandoms that have a canonical tag ship relationship between two characters? π What are your tag ships? π€ What[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Keep self shipping, proshippers! Our F/Os love and support us, and love how we fill the tags with fun, interesting content that anyone can share and enjoy!
Lol. I’d say more but that’s all the response this deserves at this point. Fancops are unhinged.
I’m mean, we’re not the arbiter of who is or isn’t ‘allowed’ to do anything. But yeah its really hypocritical and indicative of cognitive dissonance for them to like those characters.
Daverose is shipcest. What are you doing shipping daverose and being an anti??? logic machine broke.
“if you can’t say something nice, don’t say nothing at all.” – Thumper, from Bambi Wishing all fancops a very “I hope this fiction affects your reality”.
Ah yes making people safer by Conflating unrelated groups Accusing fiction writers of violent crime Wishing violence and death on people. Classic!