Antis operate on the idea that “X is bad because my set of rules says its bad” instead of “X is bad because it causes harm.” They legitimately are not operating under the same decision making framework as you and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Posts Tagged fandom wank
whitehairedanimeboyfriend:
💖 It is always okay to write or enjoy fiction that is inspired by or based on other fiction that moves you. 💖 It is always okay to write or enjoy fiction just because you want to spend time with[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
People– the people who are doing this unwittingly, rather than those doing it on purpose– need to realize that this is what normalization ACTUALLY is. By throwing around accusations constantly, they are numbing people and training them to expect a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
anticensorshipsideblog: there are some arguments that antis make where I just want to see what would happen if they sent it into a college class how much their teacher would wilt at their bad arguments and lack of understanding of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Ya’ll need to learn the difference between: A) an argument that you should respond to in order to show onlookers that the argument is wrong, and that the arguer’s stance is not universally agreed upon. and B) an argument you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Absolutely. It’s a braindead take with no notes. As usual. I know better than to extend the reach and potential influence of a post I disagree with– and nobody else is rushing to agree with either– by sharing a link[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Whoever is sending anon hate to the people we reply to– KNOCK IT THE FUCK OFF. context link
its-metal-mistress: mywitchcultblr: This is what happened when a fanfic site is profit driven. Wattpad sucks 😞 The email/DM from Wattpad is so condescending. Imagine pressuring writers to update and work while they are doing it for free and fun. Also,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
pro-bopass: brightlotusmoon: glorioustidalwavedefendor: roach-works: dduane: torturedpoetemotions: worstloki: elfwreck: lesdeuxcygnes: elfwreck: olderthannetfic: thesaltofcarthage: thorkidumpster: shinelikethunder: chibisquirt: pixxyofice: badwolf-timeandspace: Okay, so, I get it. Its a great site! You can post things there without worry that someone who claims that media seeing[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
abyssalsuns: “you cant ship that ☝️🤓” actually i can, just because youre a purist doesnt mean i need to be
red–thedragon: red–thedragon: red–thedragon: motherfuckers be like “i’m an anarchist and believe in abolishing the prison state and want to support restorative justice” and then talk about how they want to murder anyone who does a thoughtcrime about fanfiction #also ‘liking[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
bewareofdeaddove: Once you start harassing people over their tastes in fiction, you’ve gone too far. You should not be sending anon hate. You should not be telling people to kill themselves. You should not be contacting people’s family members, job,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
🔹 Someone else’s fiction cannot cause you physical harm. 🔹If someone else’s fiction is causing you emotional or psychological harm, or distress, you can put it down and not read/watch it. 🔹Your emotional well-being is not the responsibility of fiction[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
profictiontheatre: antis: frothing at the mouth and screaming about how perverted pro-fic people are and how they’re obsessed with “problematic” art me, currently drawing:
welcome-to-the-shit-library: hey so we put your morally grey character in a fandom. yeah half the fanbase makes them into a perfect angel who did nothing wrong and the other half depicts them as a cartoonishly evil villain who hurts people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
olderthannetfic: – It would also be nice if people grasped that 腐 shows up not just in 腐る but in 豆腐, and 腐女子 sounds the same as 婦女子. It’s not rotten like morally depraved. It’s literal mold or fermentation or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
thatbitch151: Coming to the violent realization that pro-shippers are not in fact what I thought they were, and that I am in fact a proshipper. I thought it meant like supporting “problematic” ships to the point that you thought they[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
numboars: zooophagous: Welcome to art group! We are an inclusive online space for all artists. We are here to learn and grow and most of all support one another! Here are the rules -no nudity ever including bare nipples. No[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
renthony: Every single time I post any variation on “artists are human beings–yes, even well-known ones who make things a lot of people have heard of,” it always immediately attracts people who make comments like, “yeah! Be nice to fanfic[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
tiny-space-robot: I´ve lately seen many young peeps in fandom spaces, worrying about openly shipping their ships because of what antis might do so let me tell you something: antis are huge losers who are gonna find something to hate you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
failure-artist: dni-archive: okay i’ve seen “no yaoi/yuri if you are not gay” but not if you aren’t asian. why is that the only asian media you aren’t allowed to obsess over if you aren’t asian? I’m guessing they *wildly* misunderstood[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
💖 Write fiction without being ashamed of the story you want to tell. 💖 Create characters without feeling embarrassed about the traits you want to give them. 💖 Craft stories without being nervous what other people will think of them.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
✨ Writing slowly does not make your a bad writer. ✨ Needing to do a lot of editing on your writing does not make you a bad writer. ✨ People expressing dislike of the themes and ideas in your writing[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
moreyachtsforgrant: I have heard rumours that Grant has left the NaNo org, and Kilby is stepping in as the interim director. I can only hope an interim director has the authority to clean house, because that is the only way[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
What’s Going On With The NaNopocalyse? What is NaNoWriMo? NaNoWriMo is a yearly event where aspiring writers challenge themselves to write 50,000 words of a novel during the month of November. The challenge was created in 1999. What is the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
🔹 It’s okay to create or engage with fiction about whatever topic, theme, or idea that you want to. 🔹It’s okay to create or engage with any fiction you want to for any reason. 🔹It’s okay to enjoy any fiction[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
‼️ Fiction cannot cause physical harm to someone. ‼️ The only person who should have the power to decide if a piece of fiction is harming you emotionally or psychologically is you. ‼️ Any fiction you feel like you are[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
No, what happened this time?
If you don’t intuitively understand why being an authoritarian or undertaking authoritarian actions, even when for a good cause, is bad– I cannot explain it to you.
I miss the time before capitalism got around to sterilizing, taming, repackaging and selling fandom for mass consumption. I genuinely GENUINELY miss when being an obsessive comic, cartoon, anime fan was deeply uncool, and nobody bothered to try to make[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The hypocritical and tangled web of deciding “what’s appropriate for children” is one of the many reasons it’s ideologically abhorrent to me to restrict what children are allowed to read. context link
I think it would be wonderful if all parents were like that. That’s very much the right approach. Well, aside from dropping the book on your head. 😉 context link
See the thing is that children reading literal porn is already illegal. (in the US.) You don’t need to normalize giving parents the control to restrict their children’s access to reading material to keep kids safe from porn if that’s[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Because when someone believes that a parent should be able to control their child’s reading material, that means: 👉 they can restrict them from ever seeing material that shows queer or trans characters or depicts being queer or trans in[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
officialonions: okaaayyy…. yom yom yommy!
Just a heads up for those who like to moralize about what is “legal” or “illegal” in fictional stories– – the American speak of the house is currently talking seriously about trying to repeal the laws that make gay sex[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
wittyno: shreedle: ao3commentoftheday: [standard disclaimer that I am not a lawyer and this is as far from legal advice as it gets] The OTW / AO3 does not allow monetization on their site. This is for two reasons: 1) the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
See, here’s the thing. ➡️ When you have a community term that your community originally defined as “supporter of freedom of expression in fiction and artwork”– ➡️ but your enemies insist means “active child abuser”– ➡️ and the term is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
shrimpmandan: Legit I think the reason why so many indie fandoms end up so fucking rancid so quickly is because you people are TERRIFIED of consuming anything on your own terms. In trying your hardest to “respect creator boundaries” you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
So I guess the tumblr party is over 🤷 where IS everyone planning to go?
brightlotusmoon: brightlotusmoon: brightlotusmoon: pretentioussongtitle: boatsaplenty: ardwynna: codenamecesare: I saw some #discourse go by about how adults shouldn’t be in fandom writing about younger characters because it’s uncomfortable and gross to younger people to have adults ‘thinking about them’ in romantic/sexual[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
even-more-pro-fiction-jellicle: Remember when Resident Evil 8 came out and everyone, including the media, was all happy and positive about all the thirst for Dimitrescu and everyone was reveling in the freedom to be horny for villains but then when people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
moniquill: claremontianwoman: moniquill: pro-bopass: just-antithings: This is not a healthy way to think about fictional characters [A screenshot of a post reading, “sometimes i hate that my favorite fictional couples are also other peoples favorites, i hate that those people[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
renthony: renthony: renthony: Your personal triggers and squicks do not get to determine what kind of art other people make. People make shit. It’s what we do. We make shit to explore, to inspire, to explain, to understand, but also[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
just-antithings: problem-shipper-backup: just-antithings: They’re everywhere these days The website literally says “by fetishists for fetishists” literally saying point blank it’s fetishizing murder & rape- It’s that the thing antis say you absolutely *cannot* do with dark fiction???????? Antis:
dead-pidove-do-not-eat: Why is it always “why does dark media help you cope?” And not “what justifications do you have to police what I do with fictional characters in my own home? And are they based on any sort of evidence?”
treesah: spandexbutterfly4lyfe: soft-october-night: I’m sorry who the fuck is out here claiming they read classic lit to learn how to have a relationship. Chronic shipping brain is truly embarrassing at a certain point The tweet is a reaction against all[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
justproshiprants: I don’t get the complaint that problematic media can trigger someone? Like, yeah, I acknowledge plenty of the shit I write can be triggering or uncomfortable. But that’s why I tag it properly and don’t post it in minor[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
renthony: renthony: Your personal triggers and squicks do not get to determine what kind of art other people make. People make shit. It’s what we do. We make shit to explore, to inspire, to explain, to understand, but also to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
mxsickfuck: You’re allowed to hate content for whatever reason. You’re allowed to find it disgusting and immoral. I frankly could care less if you hate taboo content, you’re allowed to feel however you want to about it. What’s not acceptable[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
jesuschristt-thatsaprettyface: it’s so unbelievably boring seeing discourse about villains getting an “unfair” redemption arc like it’s really not that serious why do you hate fun
👉 Any kind of evil you can make a character commit or go through is no worse than torturing your NPCs in a game. 👉 Don’t assume that acts in fiction indicate the real life desires of the author or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
the pro-censorship crowd that loves gore and violence and hates anything to do with sex are so classically puritan. It’s hilarious when it’s not infuriating. Censorship protects the expression of those in power and suppresses the expression of those not[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
tell me Will, why do you imagine that adults creating fiction about underage characters necessitates exposing underage children to that fiction? Minors are already not supposed to look at sexual fictional content– why would they be looking at adult content[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Proship and anti are reductive words that let fandom mean girls bully artists and authors by obscuring their meaning behind niche terminology. I’m in favor of freedom of expression. I am in favor of art. I believe that banning topics[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
olderthannetfic: : elfwreck: olderthannetfic: fourohfourlifenotfound: : am-i-the-asshole-official: AITA? YTA NTA JAH NAH ESH INFO See Results What are these acronyms? Yeah I hope so too. Everyone, if you voted nta, you should go delete your ao3 account ASAP or the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
It’s always okay to use the fiction you write or read to explore negative feelings, experiences, and topics. Stories don’t have to be uplifting or happy, characters don’t have to be virtuous or admirable or relatable. And it’s still okay[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“I don’t want to read this” is totally valid. “This is disgusting to me” is totally valid. “I don’t want to read this because it is disgusting to me” is totally valid. “I don’t think anyone should be allowed to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
ultraericthered: blackheartbiohazards: When people– and especially young women– are attracted to “abusive” and “controlling” and “violent” male characters in fiction– The fantasy is not about being abused, or controlled. The fantasy is about a partner who is devoted to you,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
fourohfourlifenotfound: : am-i-the-asshole-official: AITA? YTA NTA JAH NAH ESH INFO See Results What are these acronyms? Yeah I hope so too. Everyone, if you voted nta, you should go delete your ao3 account ASAP or the icky incest cooties will[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
catgirl-catboy: There is no way to create content that 100% of people are able to avoid. You can either accommodate the antis by NOT tagging your shit, or typing like a Homestuck character, OR you can appropriately trigger tag your[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Let’s talk about how to think about the artistic merit inherent in smut and pornography. Smut and porn have the same amount of artistic merit and worthiness as every other kind of fiction, and can be interrogated in the same[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Thanks, anon! ♥️ I would never want to spam a tag, but people need to be more comfortable blocking blogs they don’t vibe with. Context link
If one whump positivity post every couple of days counts as “spam” to you, I’d recommend blocking me so you don’t see my posts ever again. 🤷♂️
When people– and especially young women– are attracted to “abusive” and “controlling” and “violent” male characters in fiction– The fantasy is not about being abused, or controlled. The fantasy is about a partner who is devoted to you, who takes[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yeah absolutely. But on the other hand– the poll is 60%+ in favor of that person being the asshole. It’s a vocal minority who believe this outlandish prudery. context link
Oh if only they’d ‘get it’. ^_^;; context link
sawasawako: ‘stories can resonate with you even when the characters are nothing like you’ is something a 6 year old would understand but it needs to be explained to fandom adults on tumblr
“Critical” does not automatically mean “negative.” Thinking critically about something is not the same as (colloquially) criticizing it. “Thinking critically” on a piece of media does not mean deciding that you know all the “bad” elements of it and that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
xx-slug-xx: Ao3 authors, please learn to not insult people and be “morally superior” in the tags Instead of tagging “noncon is gross” or “not noncon because that’s problematic”, for example, just put “enthusiastic consent” or “consensual sex” in the tags.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Friend I am so sorry you got anonymous hate, but admittedly, IO am also really pleased to have received these anonymous snakes!!
🔸I believe in freedom of fandom. 🔸Fandom is not about creating or enjoying only ‘moral’, ‘god-honoring’ or ‘marketable’ works. 🔸Fandom is about freedom of expression. 🔸It is okay to create or enjoy whatever fanworks you want. 🔸Fandom is not a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I see that since I’ve been gone the proship tag has become good for blocking antis and not much else lol. That’s fine.
Okay but this is the wildest take I’ve ever seen. Has this person ever even BEEN on AO3?
I am so tired of seeing people advocate and perpetuate violence and self harm on my posts. What good do you think you’re doing for the world when you add “people like that should kill themselves” or “i hope they[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“This romance novel damaged my delicate woman brain and now I need to have my innocence restored via paternalistic medical braindamage.” WOW THAT SOUNDS SO PROGRESSIVE! Lets hear what John Kellogg, inventor of cornflakes and noted hater of masturbation has[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
pelaajanifta: GAMING RULE 1: NEVER PREORDER GAMING RULE 2:
That is definitely a question to examine, isn’t it? One could draw a lot of conclusions from examining that question.
Reddit thread about the current AO3 legal situation for those worried that the archive may be in danger.
The founder of dreamwidth and a former OTW volunteer are stirring shit about the organization’s alleged mishandling of the situation wherein malicious actors were terrorizing OTW with CSAM, and the ongoing situation where malicious actors attempt to upload CSAM to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Exactly, anon, exactly. People are treating OTW like its another tyrannical corporate oppressor with its boot on the throat of the masses, instead of what it IS, a grassroots organization of passionate volunteer fans. People, this is not who the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
OTW absolutely failed to optimally support their volunteers on this front, I agree with that. but here’s the thing it should not be a volunteer’s job to comb for material that might include csem Whose job should it be? OTW[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“labor rights”. give me a fucking break. Trying to position AO3–a non-profit organization built and maintained by dedicated fan volunteers out of the passion of their hearts– as some kind of tyrannical corporate oppressor who has to be strong-armed into[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Before you act, ask yourself if you want to be a part of a pitchfork and torch mob. Even if you don’t plan on picking up a pitchfork, ask if you want to stand with the mob and make it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
capu-ci: HHmm.. Let’s say I open a chocolate shop. I create a lot of chocolates, all with different tastes and ingredients, and then I sell them in my chocolate shop. And in these chocolates, some are made with ingredients some[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Okay so maybe the OTW is in some danger after all It turns out Board Elections for the OTW are set for August 11-14. A majority of seats are up for election. People with all kinds of agendas regarding how[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Here’s what you need to understand about the latest attack on the OTW and AO3 in the simplest possible terms. People are painting the OTW/AO3 as criminals for having a less than perfect defense ready when they were (and continue[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Because unlike a corporation that’s run to make the most money possible, and thus has to bow to public opinion and the will of advertisers– –the archive is non-profit archive with a well funded team of lawyers dedicated to protecting[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Frankly, AO3 got a *massive* influx of new users starting around 2020, and I don’t think it’s been good for the site. If users who don’t like the vibe of AO3 *do* leave and go somewhere else I think that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
No more worried than usual. This is just what grudgewank and shit stirring look like once fandom’s gotten to this large scale. The archive’s not in danger, though it’s reputation with what I will politely call “casual” fandom may be.
You always have to ask yourself, when you go to war, ‘what good things am I willing to destroy as collateral damage in my quest to stop the bad thing?’
Given that it’s dreamwidth, I’d say there’s a fair chance that it absolutely is the same single user or handful of users pretending to be a larger number. ‘sockpuppetting’ was a huge probably back in the era of fandom that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dragonesseclectic: astraltrickster: astraltrickster: Periodic reminder that you are not immune to reactionary radicalization through fandom. We all know the “jokes” about how old bronies either came out as queer or became fascists – except they’re not really jokes, and a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“but they might have broken the law!!” And? Are you forgetting the “do crime” in “be gay, do crime” again today? 👉 “failed to fully comply with the law” does not mean “did something harmful or evil”. 👉 “fully complied[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
AO3 isn’t being shut down. It is being attacked by people who want it shut down. First via illegal harassment in the form of CSAM spam to its volunteers, then via public opinion campaign, and now via legalistic attack. If[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…