despair-nagito: Interesting details in 4-2 and 4-3 In 4-2, Apollo mistook Klavier for Kristoph (he even called Klavier “Garyuu-sensei”) and the same thing happened in 4-4, but with Vera – she was genuinely scared of Klavier, because she mistook him[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
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Hey let’s talk about why the ace attorney series constantly links male femininity in general and the specifically use of cosmetics with villainy and weakness. (spoiler it’s homophobia)
lyxthen-reblogs: the-bar-sinister: Does Miles Edgeworth know? Does Miles “manipulated into presenting forged evidence by Damon Gant and endured years of rumors about presenting forged evidence” Edgeworth know? Does he know that he reinstated his trusted companion Phoenix Wright’s badge based[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Does Miles Edgeworth know? Does Miles “manipulated into presenting forged evidence by Damon Gant and endured years of rumors about presenting forged evidence” Edgeworth know? Does he know that he reinstated his trusted companion Phoenix Wright’s badge based on evidence[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You know, if it ever came out that Phoenix Wright had forged the evidence that convicted Kristoph Gavin, that could result in Kristoph’s sentence being overturned or modified.
point of order– Phoenix didn’t work as a pianist for years. He worked as an illegal gambler who used his ‘piano’ job as cover, and used his adopted daughter to help him cheat at cards.
You’re kind of right, anon. Specifically from a “doylist” perspective, outside the narrative– Phoenix Wright gets a pass because he’s the protagonist and the story follows his point of view and supports his justifications. However, from a Watsonian perspective, inside[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I just finished re-watching Rise From The Ashes, and it’s so striking to me. in 2015 Damon Gant and Lana Skye submit false evidence in a case to make sure a guilty man will be convicted. In order to do[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
the-bar-sinister: So apparently people don’t realize that Athena Cykes “power” is an exaggerated for narrative purposes version of something that a lot of hypersensitive autistic people, abuse and trauma survivors actually experience. “I can hear their emotions in the tone[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
mio-nika: My big problem with how people do Phantom. Is that he can’t be selfishly sadistic. To be a sadist you need to want something. To get pleasures from life. You can’t get enjoyment from the suffering of others if[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
mio-nika: My collection of “This Better Not Awaken Anything In Me” lines starring Simon Blackquill. He’s such a flirt! 🤣
I feel you, anon. It’s a very compelling dynamic to imagine for them. It’s really emotionally satisfying, and it would be nice if we saw more of it in the text. I love to see their relationship get to that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I do not understand why people don’t absolutely rake Phoenix Wright over the coals for what he did to Apollo Justice. When Phoenix Wright manipulates Apollo Justice into presenting forged evidence Apollo: is a rookie lawyer on his first case[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Phoenix Wright– art student dropout– constantly surrounded by highly elite, highly educated intelligentsia and outright child prodigies. He is just bluffing and faking it constantly and somehow always ends up being right. Literal opposite of imposter syndrome. Actual lawyer imposter.
We need to talk about the fact that– “The worst of times are when lawyers have to force their biggest smiles” and “I’m fine!!”/“Apollo Justice is fine!” – are both extremely toxic, repressive mantras and terrible advice for healthy emotional[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I never see people talk about the fact that Mia’s advice, about lawyers and smiles, as actually originally from Diego, passed down to her, and then passed down to Phoenix, and from Phoenix to his proteges. In “Turnabout Beginnings” Diego[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
So apparently people don’t realize that Athena Cykes “power” is an exaggerated for narrative purposes version of something that a lot of hypersensitive autistic people, abuse and trauma survivors actually experience. “I can hear their emotions in the tone of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
bamber344: yall. YALL. GUMSHOE HAS A PICTURE OF MAGGEY IN HIS LOCKER ALL THE WAY BACK IN 1-5 DUDE WAS PINING SO HARD where my gumshoe x maggey truthers at
A few days ago an anon shared with me their excitement that Phoenix Wright “canonically” has a damsel in distress fantasy. My take was that that was great stuff, but I wasn’t going to take it as canon until I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
firewindthunder: If I was the localizer who chose the name Apollo I’d pat myself on the back so hard for how relevant it turned out to be in Dual Destinies
despair-nagito: How to spook Phoenix Wright
My take is that there is enough difference in context and narrative between “Gyakuten Saiban” and “Ace Attorney” that I consider them separate games, and feel that the direct translation of “Gyakuten Saiban” is only relevant to the interpretation of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: I’ve been trying to decide if I think Klavier’s birth name is simple ugly and unpleasant to him, or if it’s his father’s name. I’m curious what the consensus is– maybe it’ll help push me one[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sharksandlesbians: one of my favourite takeaways from turnabout succession is that kristoph really cannot stand phoenix. literally hates him. “Phoenix Wright and Zak Gramarye both deserved what they got” he says. keep in mind all phoenix had done at that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: I’ve been trying to decide if I think Klavier’s birth name is simple ugly and unpleasant to him, or if it’s his father’s name. I’m curious what the consensus is– maybe it’ll help push me one way or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
the-bar-sinister: I’ve been trying to decide if I think Klavier’s birth name is simple ugly and unpleasant to him, or if it’s his father’s name. I’m curious what the consensus is– maybe it’ll help push me one way or the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I’ve been trying to decide if I think Klavier’s birth name is simple ugly and unpleasant to him, or if it’s his father’s name. I’m curious what the consensus is– maybe it’ll help push me one way or the other.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
mori-no-majou: ALT ALT okay so my current playthrough just got to this part, so now I need to know: who do we think Apollo’s first Doctor was? Christopher Eccleston David Tennant Matt Smith Peter Capaldi Jodie Whittaker David Tennant again[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Sometimes I feel self-conscious that 80% of my Ace Attorney fic is people having conversations, but then I remember that the main action and content of the Ace Attorney series is people having conversations.
periwinkla: 3-5 ending JP -> ENG comparison Phoenix少し遅れるけど‥‥かならず、行きますから。Sukoshi okureru kedo… Kanarazu, ikimasu kara. We may be a little late…But we’ll definitely be there. ‥‥なんと言っても今夜は、お祝いですからね。…Nanto ittemo Kon’ya wa, o-iwai desu kara ne. We have a lot of celebratingto do tonight, and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You are so right, anon. A lot of people are so bad at reading the trauma of characters who display it by hiding it behind a facade. You even see this a lot with people falling for Apollo Justice’s mask.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
ferretleaf: Finally playing through AA6 and wow in every game she appears in, Maya really does get even more doomed by the narrative huh. GIVE MY GIRL A BREAKK. I think she should be allowed to be a little emo.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
tobydanger83: the-bar-sinister: A defense attorney is supposed to defend both innocent and guilty clients. The writers of Ace Attorney know this, because there is an attorney in the game who specifically defends guilty clients (and is portrayed positively). Phoenix Wright’s[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon… That’s brilliant. Hold on I am integrating this into my belief system as we speak. Oh I think there is a whole fic in this…
A defense attorney is supposed to defend both innocent and guilty clients. The writers of Ace Attorney know this, because there is an attorney in the game who specifically defends guilty clients (and is portrayed positively). Phoenix Wright’s moral superiority[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sprout-is-cool: every time someone draws phoenix wright as a skinny twink an angel loses its wings
science-lings: Yeah I get that Edgeworth and Maya are besties who obsess over the steel samurai but that leaves Phoenix and Franziska time to hang out and you cannot tell me that they wouldn’t be a terrifying duo. They both[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
despair-nagito: The witness // who is seen by Wright:
when the rejection sensitive dysphoria hits so bad you commit fraud, betrayal and a murder over it.
timemachineyeah: If there is one criticism I have of this game so far, it is that it keeps calling defending a guilty person in court a mistake, and it’s not. everyone deserves the best possible defense. honestly if I could[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
bluebblurry: HEY GUYS??????
sandboxer: sometimes I think about Edgeworth keeping a steel samurai fig in his office and I get a little bonkers about it. this is the guy raised to be Perfect, who doesn’t even wear a prosecutors badge because it would[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
mayonaisalspray: No game has ever made me want to write character analysis book reports like ace attorney
infamouslydorky: the-bar-sinister: infamouslydorky: Something I realized because people like to think that Manfred Von Karma would face the death penalty: he wouldn’t In Japan, people do not get the death penalty unless they’ve killed three people. Manfred killed two, and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
infamouslydorky: Something I realized because people like to think that Manfred Von Karma would face the death penalty: he wouldn’t In Japan, people do not get the death penalty unless they’ve killed three people. Manfred killed two, and if we’re[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The Fey family legacy and the kurain channeling technique: a toxic power struggle over multiple generations that emotionally and psychologically destroyed everyone associated with it up to this point. The Troupe Gramarye legacy and magicians rights: a toxic power struggle[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
prezaki: One core trait of Phoenix Wright as a character that I rarely see discussed is how utterly evasive he is about his private affairs. It sticks out the most in AA4 when we see Phoenix from the outside, but[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
despair-nagito: the-bar-sinister: despair-nagito: the-bar-sinister: I was thinking about a friend’s headcanon/theory that Kristoph’s murder of Zak Gramarye was related to Apollo in some way and… one thing I hit on was that Apollo technically has claim to the Gramarye troupe[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
despair-nagito: the-bar-sinister: I was thinking about a friend’s headcanon/theory that Kristoph’s murder of Zak Gramarye was related to Apollo in some way and… one thing I hit on was that Apollo technically has claim to the Gramarye troupe legacy and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I was thinking about a friend’s headcanon/theory that Kristoph’s murder of Zak Gramarye was related to Apollo in some way and… one thing I hit on was that Apollo technically has claim to the Gramarye troupe legacy and secrets. Possibly[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
That’s a really interesting, fun, and appealing assertion that I really wish I had a citation for! Anybody know where I can find out more about this? 💖
There is a semi-humorous, semi-serious headcanon/theory in the Hannibal fandom that the Hannibal universe never stopped using leaded gasoline due to a hypothesis that the use of leaded gasoline through the 70s and 80s resulted in the huge rise in[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Rise From the Ashes very much acts as a thematic bridge between the first Ace Attorney trilogy and Apollo Justice, and I don’t think it’s a coincidence that Phoenix makes these two statements:
length-of-edward: the-bar-sinister: length-of-edward: Idk if this makes sense to anyone but i honestly headcanon Vera Misham as autistic. Yeah sure the genius/savant trope is overused but i think it works when it’s unintentional kinda? Vera seems like a very real[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
length-of-edward: Idk if this makes sense to anyone but i honestly headcanon Vera Misham as autistic. Yeah sure the genius/savant trope is overused but i think it works when it’s unintentional kinda? Vera seems like a very real character to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I don’t know if this is factually true or not but it *feels like* the prosecutorial parking garage in Ace Attorney and the precinct parking garage in Resident Evil 2 have the exact same layout. They ARE both Capcom games….
Replaying Rise from the Ashes, and I was *going* to remark that Phoenix doesn’t recognize Edgeworth’s car, but it’s actually very ambiguous whether he does or not. He doesn’t interrupt Ema, who doesn’t recognize the car, but he also doesn’t[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
science-lings: Another thing to add to my absolute certainty that there’s something up with Phoenix’s unmentioned family is the importance of The Class Trial. The incident itself is hardly remarkable if you think about it, it started his friendship with[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Consider: Klavier’s band is law-enforcement themed because the subject makes it more immune from criticism by his family, and hides his earnest feelings in his songs behind six layers of cop and lawyer metaphors. And the band is called “the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
length-of-edward: the-bar-sinister: length-of-edward: cenviswasteland: length-of-edward: I’m almost through with AA:AJ and i’m gonna say it. Honestly? I don’t think turnabout serenade was that bad. could it be better? sure, in the same way that all of AA:AJ could be better.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
length-of-edward: cenviswasteland: length-of-edward: I’m almost through with AA:AJ and i’m gonna say it. Honestly? I don’t think turnabout serenade was that bad. could it be better? sure, in the same way that all of AA:AJ could be better. but there’s[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
turnaboutchaos: im replaying soj because it’s fantastic and i LOVE nahyuta and apollo being in the same room together bc theyre so. they clash to beautifully. its like apollo, with an angry resting face and a loud voice 24/7: ITS[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Consider: Drew Misham, lifelong career criminal who happily used his isolated, neurodivergent child as a “the sims painting goblin”— engineered her supposed attempted kidnapping himself in order to terrorize and control her.
nonfuntional-mallgoth: Kristoph Gavin gives terrible head I just know it demanding self-interested careful and fastidious about his appearance Yeah, that checks out. ✅🤣
cowabungaits-drshrimppuertorico: the-bar-sinister: cowabungaits-drshrimppuertorico: Ok so I made a post on my main about things that irk me in certain Ace Attorney fanfics and now I wanna do another but with more of the sexual things in A A fanfics that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
cowabungaits-drshrimppuertorico: Ok so I made a post on my main about things that irk me in certain Ace Attorney fanfics and now I wanna do another but with more of the sexual things in A A fanfics that irk me.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Extremely compelling in a twisted, psychological horror/thriller sort of way. Klavier clearly is psychologically and emotionally damaged by his relationship with his brother, whatever that relationship was or entailed. Kristoph is a controlling, emotionally manipulative person who demands attention, and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sundayswiththeilluminati: @wardencommanderrodimiss
despair-nagito: the-bar-sinister: despair-nagito: Kristoph is a very interesting character, even when we’re looking at something so simple as his name in the original language. Sure, there’s the thing of reading his name backwards (as ひときり) and in result we get[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
despair-nagito: Kristoph is a very interesting character, even when we’re looking at something so simple as his name in the original language. Sure, there’s the thing of reading his name backwards (as ひときり) and in result we get a word[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
angel-ships: the-bar-sinister: onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: Has… has anybody talked about this? Does anybody know why Kristoph’s dog’s name is the Italian word for clams?? The same way his brother’s name is “Piano” in german (Tbf in Japanese his name[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: Has… has anybody talked about this? Does anybody know why Kristoph’s dog’s name is the Italian word for clams?? The same way his brother’s name is “Piano” in german (Tbf in Japanese his name[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: Has… has anybody talked about this? Does anybody know why Kristoph’s dog’s name is the Italian word for clams?? The same way his brother’s name is “Piano” in german (Tbf in Japanese his name is “Echo”,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
onewingedrupoor: the-bar-sinister: Has… has anybody talked about this? Does anybody know why Kristoph’s dog’s name is the Italian word for clams?? The same way his brother’s name is “Piano” in german (Tbf in Japanese his name is “Echo”, not much[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
megaphonegirlk: the-bar-sinister: Has… has anybody talked about this? Does anybody know why Kristoph’s dog’s name is the Italian word for clams?? Here he is, Clams Gavin , Kristoph’s dog. Why would you do this thing to me? also vongole is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Has… has anybody talked about this? Does anybody know why Kristoph’s dog’s name is the Italian word for clams??
despair-nagito: Phoenix: what are you hiding, Gavin. Tell me. Now. Kristoph: *5 black Psyche-Locks appear* fuck you, Wright. I’m not telling you anything.
wowowwild: I think I get it now. Klavier’s simp coded bc he’s so lonely and his affection immediately turns into soul crushing devotion in a desperate attempt to hold on to someone. Go to therapy, fop.
angsty and tortured klapollo is best. Like when they’re both super fucked up by their family issues, and especially reeling from their relationship with Kristoph.
thesecondwetnote: the-bar-sinister: thesecondwetnote: the-bar-sinister: thesecondwetnote: the-bar-sinister: thesecondwetnote: Is Blackmadhi healthy? It’s something I have been wondering for a while. Like, it’s hot, they look great, got parallels in their backstories. But like, are they good for each other?I feel like[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
thesecondwetnote: the-bar-sinister: thesecondwetnote: the-bar-sinister: thesecondwetnote: Is Blackmadhi healthy? It’s something I have been wondering for a while. Like, it’s hot, they look great, got parallels in their backstories. But like, are they good for each other?I feel like the ship[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
thesecondwetnote: the-bar-sinister: thesecondwetnote: Is Blackmadhi healthy? It’s something I have been wondering for a while. Like, it’s hot, they look great, got parallels in their backstories. But like, are they good for each other?I feel like the ship is a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
thesecondwetnote: Is Blackmadhi healthy? It’s something I have been wondering for a while. Like, it’s hot, they look great, got parallels in their backstories. But like, are they good for each other?I feel like the ship is a lot of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I think Klavier’s fake german accent and insistence on using german words in his speech drives Kristoph up a wall. I think Kristoph particularly hates it because Klavier is more famous/publicly visible than he is, so when people meet Kristoph[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
despair-nagito: AA4 becomes really interesting when we realize that Apollo’s actual role was to help in Klavier’s development and not in the other way. We met Klavier as haha funny bi prosecutor who can’t hold himself from flirting with defense[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
despair-nagito: Kristoph is such a well written villain. You see him for the first time and you’re like: wow, he’s so nice, but then you learn that this kind and polite person is the one who caused the whole mess[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
keevan-girlboss: Roman Empire this Roman empire that what about Kristoph having five black psych locks. what about that
mio-nika: I FINALLY PUT INTO WORDS WHY BLACKBRIGHT AS A PAIRING FEELS SO MUCH WEIRDER THAN PHANTOMQUILL FOR ME. Its the fucking. Power imbalance??? Dual Destinies spoilers bellow Keep reading
onewingedrupoor: TIL that Kristoph has a Kubrick Stare moment, that he has it even before the events of the game, and that it can only be noticed in specific situations. To know that the stare signals how a character has[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
the-bar-sinister: My absolute favorite kind of mentor and protege relationship is when the mentor absolutely cares about their protege and wants them to succeed –but they are passing on lessons that are just so, so incredibly toxic and harmful, fully[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“Evidence is everything.”
mio-nika: It’s amazing how ace attorney is like. Famous for being this silly game. Where you defend orca. And make the parrot take the witness stand. But in actual games – One of the main characters are planning to kill[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
periwinkla: Phoenix – Godot parallels I’ve been replaying T&T and I gotta say, the parallels between Phoenix and Godot are uncanny. The most glaring resemblance is that they’re both so presumptuously convinced that they are the only ones who can[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sheriffmango: I thought back to that old post where I compared Von Karma’s shoulders to the other lawyers so I selected some random wide boys from the trilogy and compared the shoulders, obviously the winner goes to gumshoe!
despair-nagito: the-bar-sinister: despair-nagito: the-bar-sinister: despair-nagito: To be honest, in the beginning I was feeling like I was alone with liking Kristoph until I left my bubble in which people weren’t very interested in him as a character. Still, he looks[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
despair-nagito: the-bar-sinister: despair-nagito: To be honest, in the beginning I was feeling like I was alone with liking Kristoph until I left my bubble in which people weren’t very interested in him as a character. Still, he looks underappreciated, but[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
incorrect-narumayo-quotes: Narumayo is my favorite Ace Attorney ship (obviously). Phoenix and Maya have such a great chemistry together, and their relationship, romantic or not, is one of the best in the series. However, despite Phoenix and Maya being two of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
despair-nagito: To be honest, in the beginning I was feeling like I was alone with liking Kristoph until I left my bubble in which people weren’t very interested in him as a character. Still, he looks underappreciated, but the reason[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
oh, “the dark age of the law”? You mean when Von Karma was prosecuting for years? you mean Blaise Debeste and Damon Gant? no? you meant after that? well damn it’s like getting rid of them did not fix anything[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…