Always happy to help people yell on anon! And as far as this person goes… Proship just means anyone they don’t like, at this point. Alternatively the charitable interpertation would be that they’re secretly proship and have “proships dni” on[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Fancops want to judge other people’s trauma without hearing about it first. Presumed guilty.
neuralghosts: antisrterrible: ruby-white-rabbit: demongender-vibes: blackheart-biohazards: “But what if a child sees this content?” This content is appropriate for, and within the rules of the platform that it was posted to. It is not my job to moderate the content of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
things-antis-say: sometimes it astounds me how antis will just. say shit. “proshipping is inherently transphobic” “proshippers use right-wing tactics” “proshippers are spreading purity culture” (← all actual posts i’ve seen, btw) like, where? what are you talking about? do none[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“I think it will be an interesting idea to explore” And “I think it will be fun” Are both always good enough reasons to justify creating or engaging with any art or fiction!
mxbbadperson: …is suicide baiting… not fetishizing suicide?? bc it feels like it is to me It’s definitely “normalizing” it!
antishipping: okay, let me dumb this down for y’all “ship” is fandom slang based on the word “relationship”. if you say you ship two characters, you’re referring to their relationship. and just like how there are different types of relationships,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: I don’t even want to dignify this with a response. What is your fucking definition of abuse, because last I checked, feeding people sewing needles, doxxing minors, harassing people to the point of suicide, putting someone’s entire life in[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
roach-works: bogunicorn: when we get into conversations of “liking this fictional thing means you support it IRL/want to do it to real people”, i immediately get a red flag off the person making that argument. because, like… i write a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Optimistically, I think it’s shrinking. I feel like we’re getting less hate and seeing less anti garbage in the tags than even a few months ago.
💙, pal, that’s a fucking tough spot to be in, and I can’t blame you for feeling shitty about it. If it were me, I’d be looking at two ways I could go. Mature response: block em and move on,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I don’t know how YouTube shorts works but that sounds shitty lol. At least you’ve got new shipping material!
Right??? I’m not going to go and read your hard to read carrd before I like or reblog something on my dash!
myownclouds: blackheart-biohazards: Congratulations on making your fandom smaller, and less fun for yourself. 🫤 What are antis doing on AO3 anyway???? Telling everyone else to leave v_v
Honestly just blocking them on sight is the pro strat for people who don’t wanna get dragged into B’s and just vibe. More power to you anon. 👊
marshemillow: It absolutely astounds me that antis will publicly shame people for writing bad fiction as if that makes you a bad person, and then complain that proshippers shouldn’t label that purity culture because it’s somehow “appropriating” a word that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
histronic-gizmo: Absolutely. Proship just means you support people’s right to like those things in fiction. I also find romantasized rape ick, but I will defend people who write it and like it until the day I die -Rick
You are 100% right, anon, fancops need to convert others is extremely evangelical.
blackheart-biohazards: 📢 Moral and immoral are not immutable qualities everyone agrees on. 📢 You are not obligated to listen to people who tell you that the fiction you enjoy carries moral weight. 📢 Trying to dictate what type of fiction[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
asterosian: See, that’s how I know they’re lying when they say “it’s not that you can’t depict it, just don’t romanticize it!” Cause when you do exactly that, they still go on a warpath. Cause if you use tags to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Oh 100% anon. Fancops have a really distorted impression of what normal is and how they are viewed with regard to it. Context link
Sounds like typical anti behavior, autism or no.
Turn off anons, and turn off or delete comments. Make yourself boring and unavailable to them until they get bored and go bother somebody else, unfortunately. Or if you want to fight back: You could also screencap their nasty messages[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
For sure. No one would have felt safe enough to make edgy volcaloid songs and we would be missing out.
badmrkitty: Dear proshippers: taking proship out of your pinned post reduces anon hate by 99%, even if you post in the proship tags and make it clear you are very fucking proship to anyone with eyes. If you feel like[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yeah. That’s what is hard to remember. That all of this endless moralizing started not out of concern, but out of a desire to win at ship wars. And then cultural moral panic by conservatives fanned the flames and added[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yep! Tumblr’s weird as hell. Usually its because you included a tag that’s censored. Or sometimes its because some asshole reported your post.
tiredasdbitch: Kink is not responsible for the existence of abusive men. Neither is “problematic!” fiction. Maybe hold abusers accountable for their own actions instead of blaming other things
“I’ve had enough of idiots in this fandom trying to force other characters into Cecil and Carlos’a relationship.” “I would say a mean word right now that starts with the letter r (…)” This post is an excellent reminder that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Pro as in professional. [Image ID: a short looping gif of queer transsexual icon Divine in the John Waters movie Bad Taste. Divine is proudly declaring “Filth is my life!” End image ID.] Serious answer: I am pro-minding my own[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
damnfandomproblems: ALT A fandom problem I’m seeing a lot of lately is minors refusing to curate their online experience and avoid things that make them uncomfortable. You’re all absolutely allowed to be uncomfortable with something—adults are too. But that’s why[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sl-ug: Lol yeah that’s it right there
fandomeldersintheirthirties: To me it’s just sounds like a perfomative totally-not-a-threat. “Oh I should totally suibait you for that gross ship of yours but I’m a bigger person now, I don’t do that anymore. But I could because you deserve it.”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Reminder: ❣️ It’s okay to create for any idea, ship, fandom etc you want to. The only limit is your imagination. ❣️ Don’t worry about the people who might hate your work, create what moves and interests you. ❣️ You[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
hjbender: me, about to get into another ship with a bigger, even more problematic age gap than the one i’m currently in:
proship-selfship: Oof, yeah I see the point. I’m not against Neutrals, but when you see a self proclaimed neutral like Blossom using words like “degenerates” to describe proship folk, it becomes clear that they’re not what they say they are.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
blackheart-biohazards: Antis are really boring and mean! Reblog if you are not boring and mean!
That’s a fair approach, anon. I hope it helps with your anxiety and you don’t get shit for it.
xxthefairywitchxx: Pro all, pro ‘do whatever you want as long as you’re not directly hurting another person who didn’t consent to it’. Now I have a question for you I want an answer, why the Jaden icon? Cause homeboy is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
100%, anon. Fancops eat their own constantly. We’ve seen it time and time again. No matter how big an anti you think you are, there’s always the chance that some other anti will find you “problematic” and call you a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
robloxboylikescats: ok so basically what antis are saying is its not ok to write a fanfiction about disturbing things happening to someone that is not real but it is okay for antishippers to write extremely detailed paragraphs about all the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
blackheart-biohazards: How to enjoy fandom and shipping: ✨ Ship and let ship. ✨ Your Kink is Not My Kink (and that’s okay) ✨ Don’t like; don’t read. Fandom is for everyone; fandom is for fun. Spreading hate and hostility are[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
blackheart-biohazards: Please remember: ♦ No person is sole arbiter of what is or isn’t disgusting, upsetting, triggering, or immoral. ♦ What you feel is wholesome and comforting can be disgusting, upsetting, triggering, or immoral to another person. ♦ There is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
antiproshipping: “the ship is weird!!” good. Im weird too. I love “weird” ships.
marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: context link for first part of this discussion. Here’s the thing, anon, you and I disagree in a pretty fundamental way. First I’ll address what you say about censorship. You specifically mention: “steam is chock full of disgusting[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I think it would be nice to stop using emotionally charged and/or eugenics based language to describe things, especially fiction, you find icky! Forget: degenerate, filthy, disgusting etc bring back calling things what they are: “In poor taste”.
context link for first part of this discussion. Here’s the thing, anon, you and I disagree in a pretty fundamental way. First I’ll address what you say about censorship. You specifically mention: “steam is chock full of disgusting games like[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
fancops parroting rules and words as ‘good’, rather than demonstrating actions that are good? Never!! (intense sarcasm)
More fancops dividing people into “good survivors” and “bad survivors.” You guys (fancops) really don’t understand how bad that is, do you? Like, why it’s messed up to police survivors based on how comfortable or uncomfortable their reaction to their[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
demongender-vibes: blackheart-biohazards: monsterproshippers: blackheart-biohazards: problematiquehell: blackheart-biohazards: I feel like my brain is going to leak out my ear. Sexual fantasies about eating people are just pretend??? But sexual fantasies about shipcest or underage characters are bad??? Make it make sense![…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
anti-anti-otonokoji-twins: The point at which you realize the entire antiship argument is one big motte-and-bailey fallacy. Your unironic belief is hard to defend (”consuming fiction with elements that are immoral in a real life context causes you to imitate those[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
space-dorito: This ain’t making any sense how can you selfship with villains but don’t like proshippers ? Antis will be like no pro shippers 😡 then simp for marvel characters like loki and bucky 💀
self-winding: loving-n0t-heyting: loving-n0t-heyting: watching the same dash tremble in a mixture of fear and outrage about the recent rightwing “groomer panic” and then get all defensive about hey john green really did have creepy groomer vibes and we were right[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
We have seen people with familial F/Os, best friend F/Os and other platonic F/Os. We’ve also seen people say things like “i ship these two characters as friends” but that’s not how the term is commonly understood in fandom, and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Honestly, thanks for yelling, and I’m glad you feel comfortable to yell here. This kind of shit is exactly what fancops are missing when they try to shut down and censor fiction, assuming that they know why and by whom[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
badmrkitty: I do think there should be social media sites with stricter rules about content. Where younger teens + people that need extreme content moderation can be on social media without having to manually filter content. I just don’t think[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
meairsa: blackheart-biohazards: meairsa: blackheart-biohazards: meairsa: i do wish there was a way to discuss taboo writings/art in predominantly fandom spaces without both sides of the argument getting defensive and screaming at each other like i think there could be a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Art and creativity can be just for fun! Even art and creativity that depicts sex, suffering, harm and/or taboo topics. Its okay for art to be just for fun! Art for its own sake is still art! You do not[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis: who do you trust to be in charge of censoring out things that you find harmful, without censoring things that you don’t find harmful, but others may? Please answer, remembering that you can not personally be in charge of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Well, anon, you had me in the first half, that’s for sure. I agree with you about blocking and ignoring people you don’t like. But here’s where you get it wrong. but at the same time, depicting certain topics in[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
things-antis-say: oh, so. anything counts as grooming now. ok
tryna decide whether to respond in a reasonable and thoughtful manner to this really fucking brain-leakingly dumb “secret third side” shipping stance argument ask anon thought for some reason to put in our inbox. Or just delete it like the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
… that *is* What It Means Now, here? Descriptivism and all.) Anyway, following the tag now on cohost has been like, “Woh, that’s a lot of fetish stuff, what the heck? Oooh, this is just what it’s like outside of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Oh and he wasn’t even hot when he grew up, I think I gave him back You are correct, anon, we are not Sims players but that is really fuckin funny! Thanks for sharing! 🤣
👉 Creating or consuming fiction does not lead to taking action in the real world. 👉 Consuming fiction about things that are against your morals does not change your firmly held morals. 👉 Creating or enjoying fiction about immoral, taboo[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
meairsa: blackheart-biohazards: meairsa: i do wish there was a way to discuss taboo writings/art in predominantly fandom spaces without both sides of the argument getting defensive and screaming at each other like i think there could be a really interesting[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
scientistservant: I want antis to actually look at my selfships before telling me I’m a *squints at piece of paper* “child abuser”
meairsa: i do wish there was a way to discuss taboo writings/art in predominantly fandom spaces without both sides of the argument getting defensive and screaming at each other like i think there could be a really interesting discussion on[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yeah, we’ve seen people go through that shit unfortunately. One of the first things we saw in the community when we started posting a year ago was some poor unfortunate 18 year old getting harassed by their anti friends for[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I love nasty ships! I love gross ships! I love toxic ships! I love villain ships! I love forbidden ships! I love taboo ships!
Fuck of I know! Could be any of ‘em. Let’s take minute to give a cheer for all the proship stimboard accounts out there doing the good work. 👏👏👏 Context link
I’d say that’s a common experience and activity for people who experience being from a fictional source. For sure, we do it too! That said, I’m gonna be nit-picky. 😉 It’s weird to write fanfiction. It’s weird to be a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Wouldn’t it be amazing if such a mythical and sought after option existed???
black-rabbit-fiction: blackheart-biohazards: We don’t participate in the DID/OSDD community, because we don’t have DID or OSDD and as a pro-endo mixed origin system we are largely unwelcome in these spaces in general. We find that pro-endo and origin ambivalent plurals[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
We don’t participate in the DID/OSDD community, because we don’t have DID or OSDD and as a pro-endo mixed origin system we are largely unwelcome in these spaces in general. We find that pro-endo and origin ambivalent plurals are much[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
demongender-vibes: blackheart-biohazards: proship-selfship: We can only hope. “like to charge, reblog to cast” as they say. oh it will. it’s already crumbling over the saint dionyss drama and over the callout that was made about by satan kin fictive. You[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: Okay? Source?? This is literally recycled fearmongering from the right!!! How do you not see it??? A visiting cop in my 5th grade class tried to tell me that if you play violent video games, eventually it will no[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
fictional-loverboy: Been thinking a lot about villain F/Os lately and how they’d do absolutely anything for you, even if its not something you necessarily wanted. Imagine sci-fi villain f/os who out of love gift you an entire planet for you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
dead-boy-dont-eat: ╭⁀꒦꒷🌸⁀꒦꒷🌸⁀꒦꒷⁀꒦꒷🌸⁀꒦╮╭⁀꒦꒷🌸⁀꒦꒷🌸⁀꒦꒷⁀꒦꒷🌸⁀꒦╮ 𝓯𝓻𝓲𝓮𝓷𝓭,i know it is rough out there. there are so many lies being told, so many false narratives, and harmful ideologies… you often feel the desire to respond and protect us. remember, friend! you do not owe these[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
badmrkitty: Antis still are strangely obsessed with sex to me. Not only do they spend a lot of time talking about what kind of porn they jerk off to, they go the extra mile and try to assume and dictate[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: They seriously don’t realize the irony in declaring some harmless sexual activity as bad when conservative shits have been doing that for centuries. Women were discouraged from reading novels when the printing press first made them mainstream because women[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“I hate proshippers, and I’m going to use the main tags just to antagonize them and then play the victim when they respond.”
[Image: a commonly used ‘meme’ gif of a black woman gesturing while saying: “you know what that is? Growth.”]
Yeah, the hypocrisy and lack of self evaluation from fanpol is wild.
marshemillow: Fandom was literally created for freaks by freaks. If you can’t handle freaks in the freak hobby, then get out.
daridaridarling: The cognitive dissonance within antis who write/draw gore… You do realize you’re spouting the same moralistic ideals as right-wingers who want to censor your content, right? How can people make gore/guro & then turn around and say “Oh, yeah.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
It’s frustrating to see the same kind of emotionally charged rhetoric, community policing, arguments from disgust, and appeals to authority and tradition that lead to fascism and genocide… And it’s a bunch of 14 year olds arguing about which Barbie[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Proship community: Thinks you should write or draw anything that you want to. Discourages harassment and threats against any person, calls out and rejects community members who engage in harassment behavior. Focused positively; share and comment on works and opinions[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: Getting off to murder would be equally bad, but yall aren’t ready for that conversation. ☕☕☕ Go ask your fancop friends if they’ve ever heard of guro, or fake snuff films on places like pornhub. Why are yanderes so[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
mikkeneko: On that other post I made about “you do not have the obligation or the right to control how other people engage with media,” one of the examples I listed was “people are consuming media they’re too old for/people are consuming[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Well, it’s sure fair for them to enjoy that, and I won’t say boo about it. But they sure as hell don’t have a leg to stand on trying to shit all over other people for their content.
monsterproshippers: blackheart-biohazards: problematiquehell: blackheart-biohazards: I feel like my brain is going to leak out my ear. Sexual fantasies about eating people are just pretend??? But sexual fantasies about shipcest or underage characters are bad??? Make it make sense! Saw an[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…