necroproship: justproshiprants: I really don’t get the, “But a kid could see this and think it’s okay!” Because it comes with so many infuriating assumptions. Why is a kid looking at something that explicitly isn’t for them? Why is the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
calling people “antis”: confusing, niche terminology not understood by anyone outside of extremely online shipping discourse. Call them what they are– Pro-censorship fans who attempt to exert control over other people in public fandom spaces through harassment, threats and bullying.
drchucktingle: back when chuck made the hugo awards ‘illegitimate’ this REPORT OF LEAKS regarding what actually happened at hugo awards shows a disgusting way. years of buckaroos working in and around hugo awards popularizing phrases like ‘chuck tingle made the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You don’t have to interact with a piece of fiction that you know will be upsetting to you. If you interact with a piece of fiction despite knowing it might be upsetting for you, don’t fucking blame the author about[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
♥️ It’s okay to write or read about sex and romance. ♥️ It’s okay to write or read about sex without romance. ♥️ It’s okay to write or read about romance without sex. ♥️ It’s okay to write or read[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
neil-gaiman: carriesthewind: dduane: neil-gaiman: Hugo Award Follow Up: I think it’s fair to say that the astonishing thing is how enthusiastically the American, Canadian (and British?) people involved in the Hugos took to censorship. I’m proud of the whistleblower, and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
transfemmesam: people will be like “you can’t ship incest that’s disgusting and morally reprehensible >:(” and then never shut up about sexual cannibalism and toxic yuri and murder as a form of love. do they not see the double standard?[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Why do you believe that people have such fragile morals they will be corrupted by a piece of fiction? Are your morals that fragile? Why do you believe that reading fiction about harm will cause the people who read it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
✏️ There is no reason to assume that an author’s intention with dark elements and evil characters is to sway their audience into believing that those things are good. ✏️ There is no reason to assume that every dark element[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yes, exactly. They have the cause and effect backwards. There are not sexist people in real life because they saw sexist themes in fiction. There are sexist themes in fiction because there are sexist people in real life creating fiction.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The term “CP” or “child pornography” should not be used in any circumstances. The term that should be used is CSAM– Child Sexual Abuse Material. A term which is accurate to the horrible crime being committed to create it. Why[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“proship” is an ideology that means “ship and let ship”. It is the opposite of “antiship” which means “against shipping.” Normal fans sometimes use the term to refer to themselves, to make it clear that they do not harass other[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon. It’s not “just something” pro-censorship fans spread to make people look bad. It’s yet another element of pro-censorship fandom culture that’s tied to its conservative authoritarian nature. It’s racism. It’s xenophobia and racism. 👉 “The Japanese are all perverts”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon, thank you so much for this message because thinking of how to answer it, it finally dawned on me in a bolt of inspiration. I finally can put into words why pro-censorship fans will be fans of a piece[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
gremlingottoosilly: Me when I am promoting harm (I’ve been chosen as official ambassador of non-con fiction and I will get the revenue later)
someone said: “I don’t want to live in a world where people write nasty fiction about (insert horrible thing here, such as murder, rape, csa, etc)…” ☝️ Understandable, but we all live together in a world where all of these[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
kyougan: i honestly dont care about people being ‘free to write whatever they want’ if something bothers me i’m gonna talk about it. the massive flood of incest, rape and pedophilia fics ive seen under the leon tag is genuinely[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
prokopetz: Setting the ethical dimension of topic-based censorship on social media aside for the moment, the practical problem with “Tumblr shouldn’t allow posts about X” is that there is no possible world in which every Tumblr post about X is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
rosalarian: bigbigbigtruck: hey tumblr go eat shit you gormless little sex hating bitch A big part of the reason I am terrified by anti-adult-content censorship is that for a lot of people, queer people are inherently adult just by existing.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yup. Pro-censorship fans hold fandom to a completely different standard than they do the official media that they engage with– a hypocritical one. Pro-censorship fans are perfectly happy to indulge in dark media with the topics they claim to be[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I wish I knew why the pro-censorship crowd is drawn to things they seem to detest, because horror media seems to be equally inhabited by a) the most depraved (/pos), uninhibited people who align themselves with the monsters and freaks,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
pro-sipper: Do antis know that their “reading about criminal activities makes you a criminal” rhetoric is walking hand in hand with right wing “seeing gay people on tv made my kid gay”? Do they care?
First of all– the binary “for horror” vs “for romance” idea is completely fake. Just take a look at the slasher villain fandom. You can put elements in for horror all you want and people will still be turned on[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Pro-censorship, pro-harassment “fans” who go around cyberbullying women and queer writers over so-called “problematic” ships are the reincarnations of victorian era quacks who believed that reading novels would destroy a lady’s morals. They’re conservatives who consider women ‘weak willed’ and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I am so glad that they are inspiring to you, and I’m so glad that you’ve gotten the courage to write again! People–especially authority figures– who squash the creativity of others are inexcusable in my mind. We had a similar[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
🖤 Your story idea is not too weird to write or share. 🖤 Your story idea is not too self-indulgent to write or share. 🖤 Your story idea is not too embarrassing to write or share. 🖤 Your story idea[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
bananonbinary: bananonbinary: i dont want to take away from the cursed tumblrness of that post but sincerely its such a pet peeve when people are like “this person wrote [pretty normal fiction that i think is weird]” as some sort[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
the-tao-of-fandom: the-tao-of-fandom: sometimes when i see people online throwing a wobbler about the supposed Problematic Media Consumption of strangers i remember my old coworker Lorraine who would frequently psychoanalyze people based on the music they listened to. To their face.[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Oh the answer to that is actually simple. They don’t reblog things because they’re (justifiably) terrified that one of their followers will find something problematic about the art or the artist, and accuse them of being a horrible person for[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Absolutely true, anon! In fandom, with recent fanworks, it is often possible to reach out to the author and ask them if certain material is in their fiction. Sadly, with older fanfic, and with printed media the author might not[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
princecharmingtobe: enigmaticagentalice: reapersun: konkoa: This has been a PSA. I’m trying not to reblog posts on this blog but I feel that this is important to post here. on a related note: And for the people asking “Well if you don’t[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
⭐ It is common, courteous and good practice in fandom circles to use content warnings for things that you know are major, common potential triggers. ⭐ Not all fiction warns for potential triggering content. Most published fiction does not warn[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
kaiasky: anarqueeen: kaiasky: anarqueeen: Tumblr just put a fcuking harry potter post on my feed as a “recommendation based on your likes” Why not recommend me smallpox next. Or arthritis maybe. Settings -> Account Settings -> Content you see ->[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
💖 Write the fiction that you want to write. 💖 Write any fiction that you want to write. 💖 Don’t let other people discourage you from writing the fiction that you want to write. 💖 You are never a bad[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
They simply do not. They believe everything should be accessible to them personally. They prioritize their own demands for comfort as an audience over the artistic choices of the creator. They lack self control to put down and stop engaging[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
✨ There is nothing wrong with writing or enjoying the type of fiction that appeals to you. ✨ There is nothing wrong with writing or enjoying mary sues, obvious author self inserts, or overpowered protagonists. ✨ There is nothing wrong[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
olderthannetfic: – Heh. Yeah, for real. If it’s tagged ‘shota’, I assume that’s because you’re well aware that it’s a nonsense fictional kink and not actually about real kids. Maybe they’re just afraid of haters, but this behavior will make[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
first of all– Also afaik what they did was not harassment giving harassment necessitates it happen over a long reoccurring period of time. That’s untrue. A single incident can absolutely constitute harassment. I suppose one could also call it emotional[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
mxsickfuck: It is so painfully ironic. I genuinely have no idea how they just fucking idea how they are THIS clueless. I don’t know how to break it to them that in the world we live in torturing people to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
xiranjayzhao: xiranjayzhao: Guess who got disqualified from the Hugo Awards for unclear, most possibly political reasons!! Award admin Dave McCarty’s response to people asking why: But this email is apparently just bouncing everything back so here’s the full list of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
ceasarslegion: ceasarslegion: Starting to think that perhaps the reason you constantly see “WHAT ABOUT PEDOPHILES?? YOU THINK KIDDIE PORN IS RIGHT??? YOU THINK THAT CHILDREN BEING RAPED IS LESS IMPORTANT THAN MEDIA????” on every single post that says “censorship is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
shakespearefreak: I asked my therapist last week if she thought being proship was wrong. She didn’t know what “proship” and “anti-ship” meant, so I explained. I also told her that I kind of wanted it to be wrong, because it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
liberalsarecool: Fascists ban books. They can’t ban ideas.
I’m gonna say it. It’s unhinged to assume that someone’s taste in fiction equates to what they believe is moral or good, or is something they want to see or experience in real life. That is a bonkers assumption to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Hey friend, I hope I can clear this up for you. “Proship” is a piece of fandom terminology that means that a person in not in favor of censoring the content of fanfiction, and is not in favor of harassing[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I agree with you in spirit. The problem is that you actually absolutely *can* make disgust the basis of your morality system– and doing so will powerfully fuck up your mental health, your perception of reality, and your relationship with[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
💖 You don’t have to justify the types of romantic relationships that you write or enjoy in fiction. 💖 To restate the above– you do not have to justify your ‘ships’. 💖 The types of romantic relationships you write or[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
illwynd: raimagnolia: rebellum: am-i-the-asshole-official: AITA? YTA NTA JAH NAH ESH INFO See Results What are these acronyms? I am surprises at the amount of YTAs on here omfg Look at it this way, everyone. Imagine you walk into a DVD[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sals-sonic: “You have to be mindful when it comes to your art and who could potentially consume it!” I can’t control who sees my art. That’s a fact. By putting it out on the Internet millions of people could see[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
plague-of-insomnia: dduane: In Major Win, Appeals Court Upholds Block on Texas Book Rating Law For those who think those of us harping against censorship are “terminally online” because it’s not relevant to real life, this is a description of the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
My friend, the fiction didn’t harm you. Your mental illness harmed you. Random writers on the internet are not responsible for managing your mental illness for you. You are responsible for managing your mental illness. I knew while reading that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Technically TECHNICALLY speaking, your attitude counts as “proship”– which means “other people can write what they want and I’ll avoid what I don’t like.” It’s people who identify as antis who use the term “proship” to mean “revels in the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
They think of themselves as good little nice sweethearts who help people and they don’t want to think about how their views are the views of repressive, pro-censorship authoritarians.
fuckofffanpol: am-i-the-asshole-official: WIBTA? YTA NTA JAH NAH ESH INFO See Results What are these acronyms? Yeah, actually, if you go into a fandom claiming that you’re the only one doing it ~right~, you will definitely piss people off. And your[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
catgirl-catboy: “Murder is okay to glorify because nobody is getting off on it.” You sweet summer child. Everything is somebodies kink, write that down. I’ve met many people that enjoy gore and murder in a sexual way (and most of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Wild that the fandom pro-censorship crowd harps on such mundane things like age-gaps and consensual incest when I can run into things like the image below just out in the wild with no warning. cut because I am not going[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
➡️ Content warnings on fiction are a courtesy. ➡️ Not every medium of fiction and storytelling has or is expected to have content warnings or extensive tagging. ➡️ Print novels do not traditionally warn for content in any way. ➡️[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
for the most part “this story about teenagers in high school should be about adults instead” just translates to “My personal comfort zone won’t let me enjoy a story without feeling socially guilty that I’m emotionally connecting with characters that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I am Bitching once again that the fandom pro-censorship crowd cries and screams and wails that everyone has to respect their triggers forever and no one should be allowed to post anything that even mildly makes them uncomfortable– –meanwhile here[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
octopuscato: nederys: kmclaude: tenaflyviper: Who said it: A tumblr “anti-shipper”, or a conservative, Republican, Christian extremist? “By writing fanfiction and drawing fan art of ____, you are condoning it in society.” “You are actively condoning ____. If you encourage[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
chthonic-pain: chthonic-pain: chthonic-pain: chthonic-pain: porn isn’t evil or misogynistic you just grew up culturally christian and are scared of sex like yeah it can be a brutal industry and i don’t want to minimize the issue of people being filmed[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
olderthannetfic: olderthannetfic: – Anyone who complains that CNTW exists should get the fuck off of AO3. At the very least, they can stop fucking clicking on CNTW works. “you know that even books with adult themes in book stores have[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
neil-gaiman: elfwreck: jayblanc: Chinese Censorship of the 2023 Hugo Award Nominations Back before the 2023 Hugo Nominations were conducted, I noted that the Chengdu Worldcon Hugo committee had inserted a worrying clause indicating that local government officials could invalidate nominations[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
sunnysatori: sunnysatori: dw, that wasn’t about you! it was about a different ask i got (i think your original ask actually got eaten by tumblr bc i can’t find it in my inbox…very functional website we have here :/) anyways,[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
if pro-censorship fans were in the habit of going into bookstores or libraries, or hell–the amazon kindle marketplace– and looking at the content that’s available there, they would perhaps for a moment at least give pause to wonder if they[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
catgirl-catboy: catgirl-catboy: Because I saw a HOMESTUCK fan triggered by the sexualization of minors. (the very same homestuck where 13 year old aliens are required to fuck by the government, and killed if they aren’t) I’m going to say this[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
illiteratebf: me after realizing thoughtcrime isnt real and fiction is a sandbox to do whatever you want in
myfandomrealitea: Antis who proudly proclaim they’re going to become a therapist so they can shut down and manipulate and unethically target all the ‘nasty proshippers’ make me laugh because they’re going to get two months into any sort of qualifying[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
clownfessionsofficial: ninjakittenarmy: clownfessionsofficial: “DNI if you ship ILLEGAL ships!!!!!” Tell me you suck cop dick without telling me you suck cop dick They’re talking about incest and pedophilia. If thats what they mean, they should say that instead of using[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
coockie8: I’m sorry but saying “don’t write dark or taboo fiction or at least keep it private because it might trigger someone or someone might get off to it.” is exactly like saying “don’t talk about the abuse you suffered[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
mxsickfuck: I mean yeah it definitely wouldn’t have even become a thing if we all could just learn to leave each other alone Honestly I have just flat stopped using the terms “proship” or “anti”. People who are in support[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
If only we had learned the right lessons. Unfortunately now we have a bunch of fandom “Jack Thompson"s running around.
when the pro-censorship crowd insists loudly that their glorified violence is *totally fine* because they think “nobody is fetishizing or getting off to it” I am just like– Are they willfully ignoring all the media that eroticizes and fetishizes violence?[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
🔸Sexual content in fiction should not be treated as worse or more terrible to write or to read about than violent content in fiction. 🔸Normalizing, trivializing and even glorifying violence in fictional content– while othering, and villainizing sexual content– is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
just-antithings: every damn time The normalization of violence and the villainization of sex.
larkandkatydid: roach-pizza: tzikeh: larkandkatydid: larkandkatydid: larkandkatydid: There is genuinely no such thing as an inappropriate book for a child. People in the tags who read Clan of the Cave Bear or Flowers in the Attic, but did you fucking die?[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
petal-girl: i have reblogged this like 10 times and am tempted to print off some copies and stick them on my wall/in my sketchpad/on my art teacher’s face
🔸It’s okay to imagine any fictional scenario. Imagining something bad doesn’t make you a bad person or mean you want it to happen. 🔸It’s okay to write any fictional story. Writing a fictional story about bad things does not make[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
mayskalih: Just a daily reminder that fiction is not a moral compass guide. It can be, but doesn’t have to every single time. Fiction doesn’t mean ‘I want this to happen to me or anyone else in real life’. Fiction[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
proshippers-against-censorship: necroproship: cosmileech: Antis will literally call u a pedo with no context, further watering down the word until it means nothing. Your literally normalizing pedophilia more then we are by calling everyone you don’t like it. Now when I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I had to ignore that youtube video for *months*, every time the algorithm brought it up on my page. A person cannot be groomed by a piece of fiction. Grooming is an intentional act that is perpetrated on purpose by[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
thestrangestthing89: Instead of Boycott Stranger Things, I want a campaign to get this show to raise the rating to R and take it out of the teen show category on Netflix. Give this show back to the OG fans –[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I decided this needed its own post, so– Here’s some context for “"The content of a piece of fiction does not reflect on the morality of its author.” and “Your personal interpretation of the content of a piece of fiction[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
⭐ Fiction writers are allowed to put elements in their work that make their audience uncomfortable. ⭐ Fiction writers are allowed to put elements in their work that are tasteless or crass. ⭐ Fiction writers are allowed to put sexual[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
myfandomrealitea: In case it wasn’t clear: Yes. Even as a proshipper, I firmly believe every single person creating content that has the potential to be unpleasant, triggering or upsetting should be responsible for making sure it can’t be seen as[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
myfandomrealitea: The problem with trying to irrevocably tie what we create to who we are is that it then completely voids the freedom of being able to create things. Fiction is not meant to be our reality. Its meant for[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
yaoist: “you have a responsibility to consider how your writing would affect other people” literally 50% of writing is manipulating the audience by setting tone and mood and drawing them in to fuck with their emotions. writers do NOTHING but[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
vivi-ships: Do y’all remember when this was a normal thing to see all over the place? Because I do. I remember seeing and posting this image everywhere when I was like 12-15.
pro-bopass: xxblackheartbiohazardsxx: lovesthecure: xxblackheartbiohazardsxx: Writing prompt: What do you think was the commenter’s original perception of this post? How did that perception change with the added context of ‘proship’? Consider this user’s thought process and what preconceptions you think might[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Honestly– HONESTLY– that’s the best way I personally find to vent my rage. It’s as healthy as you can get, and harms no one real. Go for it, pal.
Anon, I am so sorry that that happened to you. The amount of harassment and public hate that creators face these days is unhinged and untenable. I wish I had real advice for you, but all I can say is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
supersoftly: ryuutchi: askinfresh: hadeantaiga: nope-the-weeb: hadeantaiga: I really think everyone needs to truly internalize this: Fictional characters are objects. They are not people. You cannot “objectify” them, because they have no personhood to be deprived of. They have no humanity[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
myfandomrealitea: thecacklingcreep: myfandomrealitea: log6: it would be a little easier if the people who were “coping with childhood sexual abuse” by making content that is perfectly described as “child pornography” seemed a little less gleeful about it. But what do[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
tiny-space-robot: I´ve lately seen many young peeps in fandom spaces, worrying about openly shipping their ships because of what antis might do so let me tell you something: antis are huge losers who are gonna find something to hate you[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
pro-sipper: “Problematic Rape Story is disgusting and wrong because it normalizes/romanticizes/fetishizes real life crime! But Problematic Murder Story is okay because obviously everyone knows murder is wrong and the murderers are always portrayed as bad and no one is glamorizing[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I appreciate the enormous list of radfem blogs to block. “sources” that claim that BDSM and kink are harmful are overwhelmingly drawn from the same well of christofascisct conservative “research” that republicans use to justify all their restrictions on your[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I could successfully use my fiction writing skills to eroticize, romanticize and glorify a ham sandwich. I don’t know why people think you have to approve of topic as a person in order to eroticize (etc) it in fiction. “You[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…