It’s so tiring, anon. I do how things get better soon, and I’m glad getting the anger out helped.
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Yeah sorry a “”“minors”“” only proship server seems incredibly skeevy and unsafe to us. Proship kids; I’m glad you’re here. You are valued. Do NOT interact with anyone who wants to interact with you because you’re a minor. You have[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“fictional children can’t consent!!” Neither can fictional adults! They are fictional, they have no free will. They have no ability to give or revoke consent. They’re toys, they’re ideas. “fictional adults can consent if I write them consenting!” Sure. And[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
@/doctorbaixue tweets: The most obvious clue that antis can’t be trusted to an old alt girl like me is that they see normalcy as a good thing & weirdness/freakiness as a bad thing. Didn’t trust those kids while growing up[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I shouldn’t be surprised that an anti generalizes “all proship fics are badly written” because they accidentally read one fic once. Generalizations based on personal feelings and single data points are antis whole bag.
I’m dying. Help me, proshippers. This one has killed me.
octopuscato: the-girl-who-sold-the-wxrld: lordhellebore: Yes. But fiction is not reality and it doesn’t make us do anything. Fiction affects our feelings. Regarding our emotions, our brains activate the same regions that respond to real events when we read fiction. That’s why[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
olderthannetfic: moth-time: olderthannetfic: longholyscream: olderthannetfic: – Oh dear. A URL that otherwise would have appeared in response to your search was not displayed because that URL was reported as illegal under German youth protection laws. — Lumen Database Ah. I’m[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You can’t, because antis only respect disgust based arguments, not arguments based on reality.
marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: All I hear is “science isn’t real if I think it’s icky!!!!” I think it’s okay to ship underage and shipcest. I think it’s okay to kill NPCs. I think it’s okay to write fiction. Huh. That wasn’t[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Right? These antis are so out of touch with reality.
All I hear is “science isn’t real if I think it’s icky!!!!”
Hey pal, thanks for writing in. Just want to make sure you know that you can be proship and still have things in fiction that make you uncomfortable and you wanna avoid. There are specific pairings and some general problematic[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: This is so staggeringly sad in ways I can’t currently articulate. “Yeah it’s totally okay to write to cope as long as you isolate yourself from everyone else and internalize everything and never seek validation from other victims!!!”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
This is so staggeringly sad in ways I can’t currently articulate.
My personal best tip is to separate yourself from the people and places you think will harass you. Start a new, proship-aligned online identity, block anyone you think might run into and recognize you immediately, and just start posting and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis can’t agree on what’s proship!
There is nothing wrong with enjoying: Queer ships Age gap ships Self insert ships Childhood friends to lovers Enemies to lovers Straight ships Ships with villains Shipcest Toxic or abusive ships Omegaverse Underage ships Adult x minor ships Any ships![…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Exactly, the problem is that people who hate things have learned that they can co-opt the language of morality and progressive politics in order to control people through shame. People might not listen to “you can’t ship that because I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
kawaii-pigeon: Being proship is not the same as being pro incest y’know. It means anti-harassment. So even if im squicked and dislike certain tropes, im not about to be a bitch to other people and make it THEIR problem. I[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: I just had a thought; I bet antis are in favor of banning huck finn because it has the n word in it. Unironically, probably, they are.
“Its okay when *I* do things people might think are bad to cope but these OTHER people are degenerates.”
That IS very funny! The fact of it is that antis never consider any standards besides their own to be important. Their political opinions are “correct”, their morals are the “correct morals.” They can’t imagine that censorship would be used[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yeah, people acting like characters are the ones with the agency, and not the authors is a significant problem all sides of discourse.
“fictional children can’t consent” I’m sorry I am still mad about this. Watching antis act like fictional characters on the page have some kind of free will, or rights that need to be protected is baffling and alarming. No characters[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Wow I love to see extremely racist purity wank first thing in the morning. “Fictional children can’t consent”. no one in fiction can consent, you dunce! Fictional characters do not have free will!
Proship Christmas Carol where an anti is visited by the spirits of fandom past, present and yet to come. Fandom Past: takes the anti back and shows them the result of the ffn purges, and livejournal strikethrough Fandom Present: takes[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Ship and let ship! 👉 Hate and harassment make fandom a toxic place for everyone. 👉 Hate and harassment decreases overall participation in fandom; it doesn’t just chase away people you don’t like. 👉 Hate and harassment discourages everyone from[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I have seen a lot of antis use their issues as an excuse to abuse and control others, unfortunately. That’s what it always comes down to with antishipping; the desire to control the thoughts and actions of the people around[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
✍️ Fiction does not equal morality. 🛑 Harassing others is never virtuous. 🏴☠️ Ship and let ship!
Okay um like so…. Your brilliant solution completely ignores that people make fan content that people who consider themselves antiproship find objectionable. And then if you make that content, antis fly out of the woodwork to call you a “nasty[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I very much understand a person not wanting to support speech that they feel is hate-speech (racist, transphobic, homophobic jokes), and it is true that stand up comedy/telling jokes is a little different than creating fiction. However, if you believe[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
They described themselves as an anti because language is not clear and distinct, and the antiship side has distorted the meaning of proship and antiship so heavily that it can feel meaningless. According to extremist antis, “proship” means to them[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
To the anti who sent us an ask and didn’t want us to publish it for fear of being attacked by other antis: Thank you for being so reasonable, and I hope you achieve the goal that you told me[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Happy holidays, anon! I’m so happy that you’re blocking people you don’t want to see the content of and curating your own experience online; a core proship value! I’m sorry to hear about your unfortunate streak of authoritarianism, and hope[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Bullying and harassing proshippers doesn’t keep anyone safe. You guys are just mean.
I wish we could all go back to saying “x is implied to be a y” or “the subtext is that x is a y” instead of “x is y-coded”. The “coded” language is all just button pushing meant to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Once again, antis can’t agree on what does and doesn’t count as proship! I had no idea there were rpf/minecraft antis!
You do not need to justify your ships to anyone. Enjoying something in fiction does not require you to grovel for forgiveness.
The world is kinder and gentler to idiots than you have been led to believe, anon. I hope one day you have the perspective to look back and feel bad for being stupid kid and attacking others this way. And[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis, why do you care so much what sexual thoughts other people are having? Please understand you cannot police other people’s sexual thoughts and feelings without handing ammunition to the authoritarians who want to police all sex. When you police[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
proshippers: “maybe instead of sending hate, we could all just be nice to each other and block people and content we don’t want to see.” antis: “OMG how dare you say my right to tell people who annoy me that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You are not required to look at things you know will upset you. ☑️ It’s always okay to block and filter things you don’t wanna see. ☑️ Proship does not mean you like every type of content. ☑️ It’s okay[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
The problem is the majority of antis consider all fandom, regardless of source material, to be ONLY for kids. If you’re an adult they think you’re a weirdo who should get out of fandom. Any fandom. “Go do your taxes.”
marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: This assertion that antis like to parrot that proshippers “whole lives revolve around” their ships is a fascinating strawman. I feel like antis can’t conceptualize that life occurs offline, and your posting habits aren’t your “whole life”. Maybe[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
This assertion that antis like to parrot that proshippers “whole lives revolve around” their ships is a fascinating strawman. I feel like antis can’t conceptualize that life occurs offline, and your posting habits aren’t your “whole life”. Maybe it’s because[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Anon, you mean well, you’re broadly correct: the following is meant to spread awareness, not to shame you for not knowing. IQ is an inherently eugenicist and ableist concept and metric that does not help us understand anything valuable about[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
They don’t know what words mean, and they don’t know their history. They exist in a time that has allowed them to feel safe enough in their queerness that they believe they are accepted by their own oppressors. They are[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I think mostly antis hear their conservative, eugenicist parents use the term and then parrot it back without considering the full implications. Yes, they want us all dead. But they don’t understand that they, sweet baby queers that most of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
📢 Moral and immoral are not immutable qualities everyone agrees on. 📢 You are not obligated to listen to people who tell you that the fiction you enjoy carries moral weight. 📢 Trying to dictate what type of fiction is[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis can’t agree what counts as proship!
Right? Who would have thought that acting like outraged 12 year olds throwing a tantrum wouldn’t get them taken seriously? And i mean they do call us proshitters, so given that they’re anti shitting I guess they’re holding a lot[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Yet another anti who actually says out loud that they want to normalize bullying and harassment. Stay classy.
When I write some fucked up fanfic: My answer when an anti sends me hate: My advice (replace movie with fanfic):
When people call a piece of fiction illegal, or immoral, what that usually means is that it disgusts them personally, or that it is generally in bad taste. ⚠️ Other people’s disgust is not your problem. ⚠️ You do not[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Unless the drawing was photorealistic, it more than likely was not illegal under US law. I just double checked, and yes, shadman was arrested. For assault with a deadly weapon, not for drawing gross or fucked up cartoons in bad[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: You cannot increase the agency of one group (children) by diminishing the agency of another group (adults). Censorship does not make children safer, because there is no safe authority to decide what is censored. Censorship takes away the[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
gorgeousgreymatter-x: So as someone who consumes and writes fanfiction, I am on the fanfiction is a valid type of literature train choo choo but my god it is so painfully obvious some of you don’t read anything else. Some of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You cannot increase the agency of one group (children) by diminishing the agency of another group (adults). Censorship does not make children safer, because there is no safe authority to decide what is censored. Censorship takes away the tools of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Today is a good day to remember that fiction is not programming. You can create and enjoy dark, taboo, problematic art without it impacting your personal morals or judgement. Yes, even if someone accuses you of romanticizing or glamorizing said[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“Do you realize that whatever we fantasize about matters to God? He is intimately aware and involved in our spiritual development. As Christians, it is critical that we censor our imaginations, because wrong thoughts can easily become wrong attitudes that[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
I totally get feeling embarrassed about it. A lot of our opinions about rpf formed when we were 16 in high school and one of the girls in our friend-circle wrote a lot of explicit smut about the band Good[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Why get into the serious world of political advocacy when what you really want is an excuse to be mean and nasty to people online?
Children who deliberately violate their own boundaries and then cry that someone should have stopped them from being able to do so don’t get any sympathy from me. It’s like, do you want agency, or not? Why do you want[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Antis can’t accept that once something is out in the world, you have no control over how others perceive it or interact with it. Honestly it’s not just antis who act that way though, sometimes.
A few days ago I saw a video on Tiktok of someone saying that Proshippers on Twitter are comparing antis to conservatives for simply being against pedophilia, incest, and abuse. I’m sorry but antis aren’t going around saying that Queer[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
No problem, pal. 😾🔪 here, it was my post specifically, so here’s the context. (I’ll try not to ramble). personal irl background: IRL in this lifetime, I/we were raised in a household where our father had significant paranoid delusions, primarily[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
🌟 Fiction isn’t brainwashing. 🌟 Enjoying dark, taboo or disturbing fiction doesn’t override your morals or willpower. 🌟 Fiction doesn’t turn people into criminals or abusers.
pessimisticpurrbeast: and here we go again: i’m working on a comic that has dictatorship and corrupt governments involved and i was ridiculed by some kid in a discord server, desperately trying to tell me that i’m a monster for “glorifying”[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
They don’t want to take responsibility for their words and actions. Honestly, when you think about it, that’s kind of antis whole deal, denying that people are responsible for their actions. That’s why they blame fiction for programming people to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Some things to remember: ✍️ Shipping something does not mean that you endorse it. ✍️ Whether fiction glamorizes/romanticizes a topic or not is in the interpertation of the reader. ✍️ Creating or consuming fiction of any type has no bearing[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
You can be disgusted by something without that thing being immoral or evil. You can be disgusted by something without attacking, insulting, or harassing the people who are doing the thing that disgusts you. Disgust does not determine morality. Attacking[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Hi, friend. It sounds like you’re really struggling right now, and I’m sorry to hear that. I’m also really sorry to hear that you don’t have friends that you can trust to talk about this with. “Proship” can be a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
things-antis-say: telling people what they can and can’t write about and how they must portray it in order to fit your own moral standards IS censorship, hope that clears that up ✌️
Creators who make taboo and problematic works are amazing. If you make taboo or problematic art: 🫶 You deserve to have your art appreciated by those who want to see it. 🫶 You do not deserve to be harassed for[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
lavender-devil: When has art ever been non problematic? What’s the point of art if not to be controversial? Yeah, it’s great to have fun and be light hearted- to capture beauty in art. But what about the darker parts of[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Dear antis: You can’t see into a writer’s mind, and you can’t know the intentions they had when writing something unless they state their intentions directly. When you read something and you feel like it is glamorizing, glorifying, or promoting[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
🌺 Proshippers who create art are amazing! 🌺 Proshippers who write are amazing! 🌺 Proshippers who make edits, moodboards and graphics are amazing. 🌺 Proshippers who enjoy and share the creative works of others are amazing! 🌺 Proshippers are amazing!
Proship Misconceptions 🚫 Misconception: A “proship” is a ship that involves problematic content. 👍 Reality: Proship means supporting the rights of people to ship what they want. “Proship” is a label for the person doing the shipping, not for a[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: Oh my god, we’re really doing this again? Are we? Are we really doing this again? Anon, I am tired. I am so fucking tired. I’m really sorry, whoever this is, I don’t even know you, and you may[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
If i write something violent, and someone unrelated to me reads my fiction, and then goes and violently assaults someone, that’s not my fault or responsibility. If I write something sexual, and someone unrelated to me reads my fiction and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
pyroangelic: marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: I can say “hey maybe you shouldn’t accuse people who write fiction of promoting incest or pedophilia because making serious and harmful accusations equating fiction to real crime waters down the perceived severity of actual abuse” and[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: blackheart-biohazards: I can say “hey maybe you shouldn’t accuse people who write fiction of promoting incest or pedophilia because making serious and harmful accusations equating fiction to real crime waters down the perceived severity of actual abuse” and antis[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
trueishcolours: blackheart-biohazards: Yes, its absolutely true. It also makes it harder or impossible for people who are triggered by those things to create strong filters online to keep from seeing them. If you’re talking about rape, and you write it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Knowing that we were able to help somebody see this means a lot, anon. Thank you for reaching out to us. It helped a lot to read it today
What is triggering content? We talk a lot about how antis don’t seem to understand that the things that make them upset are comforting to some people, and the things that are comforting to them are upsetting and traumatic to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
“like the Lord intended” These motherfuckers aren’t even pretending it’s not about religious purity. They straight up want to censor content that goes against their faith.
Yes, its absolutely true. It also makes it harder or impossible for people who are triggered by those things to create strong filters online to keep from seeing them. If you’re talking about rape, and you write it r*pe, then[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
marshemillow: “If proshippers don’t even like problematic content, then why would they defend it so much???” um, because it’s bad to limit freedom of expression? Haven’t you ever heard, “I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
People need to understand competing access needs. Its perfectly normal for some people to want to avoid fictional material related to things that oppress or traumatize them, and perfectly normal for some traumatized or oppressed people to want to seek[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Meanwhile, our internet was completely unmonitored our whole childhood. I was looking at dirty fanart of Jesse and James from team rocket on geocities pages. I wish antis could understand that it is okay and normal for them to curate[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
When we were in middle school, we were regularly mis-aged as being 18+ specifically because of the size of our bust. We were regularly both body shamed and sexually harassed for this trait, and gaslit to believe we deserved it[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
👉 Fictional characters cannot be abused. 👉 Consent does not apply to fictional characters. 👉 The only question of consent in fiction is the consent of the author, and the consent of the reader. An author cannot write anything they[…]↓ Read the rest of this entry…
Indulge your id through fiction. The shadow self breaks free more easily when you don’t feed it by hand.
People are not obligated to produce only content that makes you personally feel comfortable. You are not owed a comfortable environment in all public media content spaces.